I am sure they are very nice, but quality is not a differentiator in that market. It's part of the entrance fee. Microsoft has crazy amounts of money and influ

I am sure they are very nice, but quality is not a differentiator in that market. It's part of the entrance fee. Microsoft has crazy amounts of money and influence, so we can all say "don't count them out yet". The point is they are huge and have no power in the most important market in the industry.