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So let me get this straight. This guy got a girl who wasn't (or isn't anymore) his wife pregnant when he was 20 and didn't have a college degree. No shit it's g

So let me get this straight. This guy got a girl who wasn't (or isn't anymore) his wife pregnant when he was 20 and didn't have a college degree. No shit it's going to be hard to get along. For fuck's sake, you can get FREE condoms from Planned Parenthood or another local health clinic. The sense of entitlement people have is just astonishing to me.

cmiles74 13y ago
A sense of entitlement that is not present in the article in any way. In fact, this man worked hard and recently graduate college; he has moved on to a full-time position. He's concerned with his older co-workers and how they will manage to get by. But he says many security guards are much older, and it would be hard for them to find another job. Hard working, moving forward, concerned about his fellow man... I'm not sure where this "sense of entitlement" you mention is coming from.
MattGrommes 13y ago
I think you're forgetting the phrase "shit happens". There is no way of knowing what happened to the mom or their relationship. And I don't think it matters either. How would his having a wife have any impact on his situation? If she didn't work, it would be another person to take care of. If she did work, they'd have the same childcare problems mentioned in the article. He seems like he's working hard to take care of his kid but like most people wishes the huge company he works for would help a little more. Where's the entitlement?
- w1ntermute 13y ago
  > I think you're forgetting the phrase "shit happens". Oh come on. There is no excuse for not using contraception when you're not financially, emotionally, and maritally prepared to have a child. I don't know about this particular man's case, but 95% of unwanted pregnancies are due to failure to use contraception or use it properly [0], which is nothing more or less than sheer irresponsibility on the part of the future parents. > How would his having a wife have any impact on his situation? Seriously? It's much easier to raise a child when both parents are present. It gives you more flexibility in terms of work, even if both parents are working. You save a lot of money because you're not paying individual rents. You save money on food as well. You get tax benefits from the government. If one of you has a job with health insurance that includes dependents, then the other gets it too. The list goes on and on. > He seems like he's working hard to take care of his kid but like most people wishes the huge company he works for would help a little more. Where's the entitlement? He irresponsibly had a child when he wasn't prepared to raise one, and is now expecting others to help him out. That is entitlement. 0: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2008/05/09/ImprovingContraceptiveUse.pdf http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2008/05/09/ImprovingContracep...
  - logjam 13y ago
    "I don't know about this particular man's case..." followed by "He irresponsibly had a child...." [emphasis added] Do you even read your own writing from one paragraph to the next? How in the fuck do you have any clue whatsoever about what happened to "this guy" before and at the time he had his child? The only "entitlement" here is you making really amazing, shitty assumptions. Over and over.
    - w1ntermute 13y ago
      > Do you even read your own writing from one paragraph to the next? Do you even use any semblance of common sense? Even if his daughter was one of the 5% of pregnancies that resulted from failure of contraception, the mother should have gotten an abortion. Not all pregnancies have to result in a birth. Regardless, my argument isn't specific to this individual. On the whole, 95% of unwanted pregnancies are the result of irresponsibility. And over and over, we see articles like this one about people who have children when they're too young to financially support them and then complain about how they're not getting paid more. That is entitlement. > How in the fuck do you have any clue whatsoever about what happened to "this guy" before and at the time he had his child? Regardless of what "happened to" him, he shouldn't have impregnated a woman at the age of 20, and stopped the birth if it happened on accident. That much is clear.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    > but 95% of unwanted pregnancies are due to failure to use contraception or use it properly [0], which is nothing more or less than sheer irresponsibility on the part of the future parents. He made have made sure that she was using contraception, and not known that she was doing so incorrectly. Or maybe she had some medication interaction that no one warned her about. Or maybe they were one of the 5%.
    - w1ntermute 13y ago
      > He made have made sure that she was using contraception, and not known that she was doing so incorrectly. This is also being irresponsible. Don't stick your dick in crazy. > Or maybe she had some medication interaction that no one warned her about. Not sure what you mean by this, but if she had a latex allergy, there are non-latex condoms as well. Either way, there is no excuse for not using one. > Or maybe they were one of the 5%. Maybe, but then you can get an abortion. And besides, the real point of this article isn't about this one individual, but about the large segment of society that is in a similar position to him. And on average, 95% of those people who had unwanted pregnancies fall into the "lack of or incorrect use of contraception" category.
bottompair 13y ago
Couldn't agree more. Most of us started at the bottom and worked very hard to get where we are. Kids cost money, try refraining from having them until you can afford it. I'm sure his mom is loving the situation.
logjam 13y ago
Let us get you straight. "This guy" has a "sense of entitlement" in your little world....because he's taking care of his daughter, worked at a menial job to make ends meets and while he kept studyting and just got his college degree, programs on the side, just got a new job, and took the time and energy to try to improve conditions for his fellow employees....and then geniuses like you whine about "free condoms" and "entitlement"? Please. Just delete your comment.
- w1ntermute 13y ago
  He's complaining about a job that's paying $16/hour an hour when the article clearly states that $16.50/hour is enough for a single person to live on in the valley. He says he has to turn down hours because of his daughter, which means he could probably make enough to survive if she wasn't present. Ergo, his current difficulties are largely brought on by the irresponsible impregnation of a woman when he was not ready to raise a child. Please. Just stop spouting liberal claptrap for a second and use your head.
  - sp332 13y ago
    And if we just got rid of half the people on the planet, the rest of us could be twice as rich! A sense of entitlement means you think someone owes you something you didn't work for. This guy is working hard and looking for ways to earn more which means he's not feeling entitled.

cmiles74 13y ago

A sense of entitlement that is not present in the article in any way. In fact, this man worked hard and recently graduate college; he has moved on to a full-time position. He's concerned with his older co-workers and how they will manage to get by. But he says many security guards are much older, and it would be hard for them to find another job. Hard working, moving forward, concerned about his fellow man... I'm not sure where this "sense of entitlement" you mention is coming from.

MattGrommes 13y ago

I think you're forgetting the phrase "shit happens". There is no way of knowing what happened to the mom or their relationship. And I don't think it matters either. How would his having a wife have any impact on his situation? If she didn't work, it would be another person to take care of. If she did work, they'd have the same childcare problems mentioned in the article. He seems like he's working hard to take care of his kid but like most people wishes the huge company he works for would help a little more. Where's the entitlement?

w1ntermute 13y ago
> I think you're forgetting the phrase "shit happens". Oh come on. There is no excuse for not using contraception when you're not financially, emotionally, and maritally prepared to have a child. I don't know about this particular man's case, but 95% of unwanted pregnancies are due to failure to use contraception or use it properly [0], which is nothing more or less than sheer irresponsibility on the part of the future parents. > How would his having a wife have any impact on his situation? Seriously? It's much easier to raise a child when both parents are present. It gives you more flexibility in terms of work, even if both parents are working. You save a lot of money because you're not paying individual rents. You save money on food as well. You get tax benefits from the government. If one of you has a job with health insurance that includes dependents, then the other gets it too. The list goes on and on. > He seems like he's working hard to take care of his kid but like most people wishes the huge company he works for would help a little more. Where's the entitlement? He irresponsibly had a child when he wasn't prepared to raise one, and is now expecting others to help him out. That is entitlement. 0: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2008/05/09/ImprovingContraceptiveUse.pdf http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2008/05/09/ImprovingContracep...
- logjam 13y ago
  "I don't know about this particular man's case..." followed by "He irresponsibly had a child...." [emphasis added] Do you even read your own writing from one paragraph to the next? How in the fuck do you have any clue whatsoever about what happened to "this guy" before and at the time he had his child? The only "entitlement" here is you making really amazing, shitty assumptions. Over and over.
  - w1ntermute 13y ago
    > Do you even read your own writing from one paragraph to the next? Do you even use any semblance of common sense? Even if his daughter was one of the 5% of pregnancies that resulted from failure of contraception, the mother should have gotten an abortion. Not all pregnancies have to result in a birth. Regardless, my argument isn't specific to this individual. On the whole, 95% of unwanted pregnancies are the result of irresponsibility. And over and over, we see articles like this one about people who have children when they're too young to financially support them and then complain about how they're not getting paid more. That is entitlement. > How in the fuck do you have any clue whatsoever about what happened to "this guy" before and at the time he had his child? Regardless of what "happened to" him, he shouldn't have impregnated a woman at the age of 20, and stopped the birth if it happened on accident. That much is clear.
- DanBC 13y ago
  > but 95% of unwanted pregnancies are due to failure to use contraception or use it properly [0], which is nothing more or less than sheer irresponsibility on the part of the future parents. He made have made sure that she was using contraception, and not known that she was doing so incorrectly. Or maybe she had some medication interaction that no one warned her about. Or maybe they were one of the 5%.
  - w1ntermute 13y ago
    > He made have made sure that she was using contraception, and not known that she was doing so incorrectly. This is also being irresponsible. Don't stick your dick in crazy. > Or maybe she had some medication interaction that no one warned her about. Not sure what you mean by this, but if she had a latex allergy, there are non-latex condoms as well. Either way, there is no excuse for not using one. > Or maybe they were one of the 5%. Maybe, but then you can get an abortion. And besides, the real point of this article isn't about this one individual, but about the large segment of society that is in a similar position to him. And on average, 95% of those people who had unwanted pregnancies fall into the "lack of or incorrect use of contraception" category.

bottompair 13y ago

Couldn't agree more. Most of us started at the bottom and worked very hard to get where we are. Kids cost money, try refraining from having them until you can afford it. I'm sure his mom is loving the situation.

logjam 13y ago

Let us get you straight. "This guy" has a "sense of entitlement" in your little world....because he's taking care of his daughter, worked at a menial job to make ends meets and while he kept studyting and just got his college degree, programs on the side, just got a new job, and took the time and energy to try to improve conditions for his fellow employees....and then geniuses like you whine about "free condoms" and "entitlement"? Please. Just delete your comment.

w1ntermute 13y ago
He's complaining about a job that's paying $16/hour an hour when the article clearly states that $16.50/hour is enough for a single person to live on in the valley. He says he has to turn down hours because of his daughter, which means he could probably make enough to survive if she wasn't present. Ergo, his current difficulties are largely brought on by the irresponsible impregnation of a woman when he was not ready to raise a child. Please. Just stop spouting liberal claptrap for a second and use your head.
- sp332 13y ago
  And if we just got rid of half the people on the planet, the rest of us could be twice as rich! A sense of entitlement means you think someone owes you something you didn't work for. This guy is working hard and looking for ways to earn more which means he's not feeling entitled.