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I like sublime, but what I would give to have it ditch the open file list paradigm entirely, replace it by a file history, and keep the undo info regardless of

I like sublime, but what I would give to have it ditch the open file list paradigm entirely, replace it by a file history, and keep the undo info regardless of the open/closed state.

mhurron 13y ago
That's funny, because I wouldn't want any of that.
- belluchan 13y ago
  You probably haven't used buffers in emacs or vim nor seen the powerful undo systems of either.
  - hack_edu 13y ago
    Which is probably why they use Sublime Text.
    - Kesty 13y ago
      Every time I see people start arguing about editors I end up here http://xkcd.com/378/ http://xkcd.com/378/
    - mhurron 13y ago
      Yes I'm just a rube who couldn't possibly understand why your opinion is the only right way.
      - hack_edu 13y ago
        Oops! My intention was that some people have preferences to something that just works and stays out of their way. Not that any killer feature convinces someone to use a tool, but the opposite. Overall accessibility to a specific user is the only thing that matters. :) FWIW, I'd use Sublime if all vim bindings worked but that's not possible given its other critical features nor the project's current goal.
    - baby 13y ago
      Why? I use Emacs and Sublime Text.
- wodenokoto 13y ago
  Why would you not want it to remember undo's from last time you had a file open?
  - mhurron 13y ago
    Because after a little bit of time has passed, I no longer remember where the file was at. If I can not remember enough, I can not intelligently undo actions. I use undo to to specifically undo a specific action. Beyond that, I am looking at writing something new to deal with what I am trying to have the file/document/program do or say.
    - belluchan 13y ago
      So because you can't sometimes remember what you were doing in a file you would never want a feature that would have undos even for files that were closed? Ok. And what does the file being open have to do with remembering what you did it in it? You could have a tab open for ages in ST and I bet you are as likely to remember what you were doing in it as you were in a file recently closed, so why should that impact whether undos were available for it? No need to answer, these were just rhetorical questions to point out the flaws in your reasoning here. I actually don't want to read any more of what you have to say about it.
      - mhurron 13y ago
        > So because you can't sometimes remember what you were doing in a file you would never want a feature that would have undos even for files that were closed? Ok. Yes I believe it's called 'That's how I work.' I don't use undo that way, so I have no desire for it to work that way, especially not along with all the rest they wanted. > And what does the file being open have to do with remembering what you did it in it? Maybe it was open for a reason? Maybe I was actually working on it. Shocking really. > You could have a tab open for ages in ST and I bet you are as likely to remember what you were doing in it as you were in a file recently closed, so why should that impact whether undos were available for it? Very good, I am unlikely to remember what I was doing, I don't use undo in these circumstances. HINT: I might not use undo the way you do. I undo immediate actions. That's about it.

I like sublime, but what I would give to have it ditch the open file list paradigm entirely, replace it by a file history, and keep the undo info regardless of the open/closed state.

mhurron 13y ago

That's funny, because I wouldn't want any of that.

belluchan 13y ago
You probably haven't used buffers in emacs or vim nor seen the powerful undo systems of either.
- hack_edu 13y ago
  Which is probably why they use Sublime Text.
  - Kesty 13y ago
    Every time I see people start arguing about editors I end up here http://xkcd.com/378/ http://xkcd.com/378/
  - mhurron 13y ago
    Yes I'm just a rube who couldn't possibly understand why your opinion is the only right way.
    - hack_edu 13y ago
      Oops! My intention was that some people have preferences to something that just works and stays out of their way. Not that any killer feature convinces someone to use a tool, but the opposite. Overall accessibility to a specific user is the only thing that matters. :) FWIW, I'd use Sublime if all vim bindings worked but that's not possible given its other critical features nor the project's current goal.
  - baby 13y ago
    Why? I use Emacs and Sublime Text.
wodenokoto 13y ago
Why would you not want it to remember undo's from last time you had a file open?
- mhurron 13y ago
  Because after a little bit of time has passed, I no longer remember where the file was at. If I can not remember enough, I can not intelligently undo actions. I use undo to to specifically undo a specific action. Beyond that, I am looking at writing something new to deal with what I am trying to have the file/document/program do or say.
  - belluchan 13y ago
    So because you can't sometimes remember what you were doing in a file you would never want a feature that would have undos even for files that were closed? Ok. And what does the file being open have to do with remembering what you did it in it? You could have a tab open for ages in ST and I bet you are as likely to remember what you were doing in it as you were in a file recently closed, so why should that impact whether undos were available for it? No need to answer, these were just rhetorical questions to point out the flaws in your reasoning here. I actually don't want to read any more of what you have to say about it.
    - mhurron 13y ago
      > So because you can't sometimes remember what you were doing in a file you would never want a feature that would have undos even for files that were closed? Ok. Yes I believe it's called 'That's how I work.' I don't use undo that way, so I have no desire for it to work that way, especially not along with all the rest they wanted. > And what does the file being open have to do with remembering what you did it in it? Maybe it was open for a reason? Maybe I was actually working on it. Shocking really. > You could have a tab open for ages in ST and I bet you are as likely to remember what you were doing in it as you were in a file recently closed, so why should that impact whether undos were available for it? Very good, I am unlikely to remember what I was doing, I don't use undo in these circumstances. HINT: I might not use undo the way you do. I undo immediate actions. That's about it.