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> but at the same point, why do we need freebds and openbsd? In terms of resource, can't we get merge the two team together? Are you a project manager?

by weland 13y ago

yeukhon 13y ago
Wow, the tone is very harsh here. What's wrong with my suggestion? i honestly don't get all the downvotes here. smh. Even they are two distinct projects by now, there is no need to be harsh and ask if I were a project manager. The Internet is open to people to question.
- dingaling 13y ago
  it's always good to ask questions. If you're not familiar with the BSD World, what you asked was tantamount to Why can't we merge Gentoo and Ubuntu?' The BSD clans have very different goals and philosophies.
  - yeukhon 13y ago
    I am scared to be a *BSD user by now, though I had used it for a while back when I was a high school student. I probably have stepped on the forbidden land of all OS: "duh, if I want to get merged, I wouldn't be forking or stemming off from some root project a long time ago -- I like what I am doing and I am doing well." Something like that. Anyhow, I think that antagonistic response is unnecessary. It is different in other projects where people see that if they can merge effort they may get better. My example is Pylons and Pyramid.
- weland 13y ago
  I don't know about the others. I downvoted because I don't like suggestions phrased as questions (and yeah, that tends to be what project managers do when they have no useful contribution to offer, can't be bothered to learn anything about the project they're managing, but want to feel like they're not useless).
  - yeukhon 13y ago
    First of all, there are project managers who are also devs. So you are in fact insulting thousands of hard working devs who have to take the role of a project manager. Secondly, don't assume that kind of question is coming from project manager's voice. That's rather stupid and narrow minded. Any one can ask that question. Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. Anyone should be allowed to ask question. All the downvotes are either because (1) some bigot mind can't appreciate question, or (2) people who can't get along with the other development team so any thought on merging two project must be a crime, or (3) people just hate my idea of asking Google to donate a couple machines. You are just making the *BSD world bad because no one shall ever asked such stupid question why two teams should never think about merging into a single team.
    - weland 13y ago
      > Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. Anyone should be allowed to ask question. All the downvotes are either because (1) some bigot mind can't appreciate question, or (2) people who can't get along with the other development team so any thought on merging two project must be a crime, or (3) people just hate my idea of asking Google to donate a couple machines. Or (4), people are strongly adversarial to the "why do we need" question in the context of open source projects. Do we also really need iOS and Android? Windows and OS X and Linux and the many flavours of BSD? Chocolate and vanilla ice cream? > Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. No it isn't. Yes, people who dislike your ideas will downvote you. It's pretty much how the interwebs work. If there are more people who dislike them than people who like them, the downvotes will outweight the upvotes. There also tends to be no correlation between how bad an idea is and how many downvotes or upvotes it receives. Because the Internet is full of mean, misbehaving people like me.

> but at the same point, why do we need freebds and openbsd? In terms of resource, can't we get merge the two team together? Are you a project manager?

by weland 13y ago

> but at the same point, why do we need freebds and openbsd? In terms of resource, can't we get merge the two team together? Are you a project manager?

yeukhon 13y ago

Wow, the tone is very harsh here. What's wrong with my suggestion? i honestly don't get all the downvotes here. smh. Even they are two distinct projects by now, there is no need to be harsh and ask if I were a project manager. The Internet is open to people to question.

dingaling 13y ago
it's always good to ask questions. If you're not familiar with the BSD World, what you asked was tantamount to Why can't we merge Gentoo and Ubuntu?' The BSD clans have very different goals and philosophies.
- yeukhon 13y ago
  I am scared to be a *BSD user by now, though I had used it for a while back when I was a high school student. I probably have stepped on the forbidden land of all OS: "duh, if I want to get merged, I wouldn't be forking or stemming off from some root project a long time ago -- I like what I am doing and I am doing well." Something like that. Anyhow, I think that antagonistic response is unnecessary. It is different in other projects where people see that if they can merge effort they may get better. My example is Pylons and Pyramid.
weland 13y ago
I don't know about the others. I downvoted because I don't like suggestions phrased as questions (and yeah, that tends to be what project managers do when they have no useful contribution to offer, can't be bothered to learn anything about the project they're managing, but want to feel like they're not useless).
- yeukhon 13y ago
  First of all, there are project managers who are also devs. So you are in fact insulting thousands of hard working devs who have to take the role of a project manager. Secondly, don't assume that kind of question is coming from project manager's voice. That's rather stupid and narrow minded. Any one can ask that question. Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. Anyone should be allowed to ask question. All the downvotes are either because (1) some bigot mind can't appreciate question, or (2) people who can't get along with the other development team so any thought on merging two project must be a crime, or (3) people just hate my idea of asking Google to donate a couple machines. You are just making the *BSD world bad because no one shall ever asked such stupid question why two teams should never think about merging into a single team.
  - weland 13y ago
    > Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. Anyone should be allowed to ask question. All the downvotes are either because (1) some bigot mind can't appreciate question, or (2) people who can't get along with the other development team so any thought on merging two project must be a crime, or (3) people just hate my idea of asking Google to donate a couple machines. Or (4), people are strongly adversarial to the "why do we need" question in the context of open source projects. Do we also really need iOS and Android? Windows and OS X and Linux and the many flavours of BSD? Chocolate and vanilla ice cream? > Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. No it isn't. Yes, people who dislike your ideas will downvote you. It's pretty much how the interwebs work. If there are more people who dislike them than people who like them, the downvotes will outweight the upvotes. There also tends to be no correlation between how bad an idea is and how many downvotes or upvotes it receives. Because the Internet is full of mean, misbehaving people like me.