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I wonder if they can just approach to Google and ask if they could just donate a couple Compute Engines... but at the same point, why do we need freebds and op

by yeukhon 13y ago

I wonder if they can just approach to Google and ask if they could just donate a couple Compute Engines... but at the same point, why do we need freebds and openbsd? In terms of resource, can't we get merge the two team together?

erichurkman 13y ago
FreeBSD and OpenBSD are different projects, despite having 'BSD' in their names. They share a lot of concepts, and some code, but they do not share some of the same philosophies and goals. It is not like the Debian world, where there are dozens of maintained forks and flavors of Debian. They are fundamentally very different projects and communities.
asveikau 13y ago
There is a long history involved. You could have looked it up. OpenBSD split from NetBSD in the 90s. FreeBSD is separate from either one. IIRC FreeBSD and NetBSD both have some roots in a project called 386BSD, and before that, some releases from UC Berkeley. In practice, though, even today they tend to share a lot of new code. When one of them gets a good idea it's often ported to the others.
weland 13y ago
> but at the same point, why do we need freebds and openbsd? In terms of resource, can't we get merge the two team together? Are you a project manager?
- yeukhon 13y ago
  Wow, the tone is very harsh here. What's wrong with my suggestion? i honestly don't get all the downvotes here. smh. Even they are two distinct projects by now, there is no need to be harsh and ask if I were a project manager. The Internet is open to people to question.
  - dingaling 13y ago
    it's always good to ask questions. If you're not familiar with the BSD World, what you asked was tantamount to Why can't we merge Gentoo and Ubuntu?' The BSD clans have very different goals and philosophies.
    - yeukhon 13y ago
      I am scared to be a *BSD user by now, though I had used it for a while back when I was a high school student. I probably have stepped on the forbidden land of all OS: "duh, if I want to get merged, I wouldn't be forking or stemming off from some root project a long time ago -- I like what I am doing and I am doing well." Something like that. Anyhow, I think that antagonistic response is unnecessary. It is different in other projects where people see that if they can merge effort they may get better. My example is Pylons and Pyramid.
  - weland 13y ago
    I don't know about the others. I downvoted because I don't like suggestions phrased as questions (and yeah, that tends to be what project managers do when they have no useful contribution to offer, can't be bothered to learn anything about the project they're managing, but want to feel like they're not useless).
    - yeukhon 13y ago
      First of all, there are project managers who are also devs. So you are in fact insulting thousands of hard working devs who have to take the role of a project manager. Secondly, don't assume that kind of question is coming from project manager's voice. That's rather stupid and narrow minded. Any one can ask that question. Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. Anyone should be allowed to ask question. All the downvotes are either because (1) some bigot mind can't appreciate question, or (2) people who can't get along with the other development team so any thought on merging two project must be a crime, or (3) people just hate my idea of asking Google to donate a couple machines. You are just making the *BSD world bad because no one shall ever asked such stupid question why two teams should never think about merging into a single team.
openbsddesktop 13y ago
http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/62641-crypto-freebsd-playing-catch-up-says-de-raadt http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/62641-cry...

by yeukhon 13y ago

erichurkman 13y ago

FreeBSD and OpenBSD are different projects, despite having 'BSD' in their names. They share a lot of concepts, and some code, but they do not share some of the same philosophies and goals. It is not like the Debian world, where there are dozens of maintained forks and flavors of Debian. They are fundamentally very different projects and communities.

asveikau 13y ago

There is a long history involved. You could have looked it up. OpenBSD split from NetBSD in the 90s. FreeBSD is separate from either one. IIRC FreeBSD and NetBSD both have some roots in a project called 386BSD, and before that, some releases from UC Berkeley. In practice, though, even today they tend to share a lot of new code. When one of them gets a good idea it's often ported to the others.

weland 13y ago

> but at the same point, why do we need freebds and openbsd? In terms of resource, can't we get merge the two team together? Are you a project manager?

yeukhon 13y ago
Wow, the tone is very harsh here. What's wrong with my suggestion? i honestly don't get all the downvotes here. smh. Even they are two distinct projects by now, there is no need to be harsh and ask if I were a project manager. The Internet is open to people to question.
- dingaling 13y ago
  it's always good to ask questions. If you're not familiar with the BSD World, what you asked was tantamount to Why can't we merge Gentoo and Ubuntu?' The BSD clans have very different goals and philosophies.
  - yeukhon 13y ago
    I am scared to be a *BSD user by now, though I had used it for a while back when I was a high school student. I probably have stepped on the forbidden land of all OS: "duh, if I want to get merged, I wouldn't be forking or stemming off from some root project a long time ago -- I like what I am doing and I am doing well." Something like that. Anyhow, I think that antagonistic response is unnecessary. It is different in other projects where people see that if they can merge effort they may get better. My example is Pylons and Pyramid.
- weland 13y ago
  I don't know about the others. I downvoted because I don't like suggestions phrased as questions (and yeah, that tends to be what project managers do when they have no useful contribution to offer, can't be bothered to learn anything about the project they're managing, but want to feel like they're not useless).
  - yeukhon 13y ago
    First of all, there are project managers who are also devs. So you are in fact insulting thousands of hard working devs who have to take the role of a project manager. Secondly, don't assume that kind of question is coming from project manager's voice. That's rather stupid and narrow minded. Any one can ask that question. Whether the project is so distinct in terms of code or philosophy, it is a genuine question. Anyone should be allowed to ask question. All the downvotes are either because (1) some bigot mind can't appreciate question, or (2) people who can't get along with the other development team so any thought on merging two project must be a crime, or (3) people just hate my idea of asking Google to donate a couple machines. You are just making the *BSD world bad because no one shall ever asked such stupid question why two teams should never think about merging into a single team.

openbsddesktop 13y ago

http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/62641-crypto-freebsd-playing-catch-up-says-de-raadt http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/62641-cry...