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Edward Snowden offers to help Brazil over US spying in return for asylum

16 points by Cbasedlifeform 13y ago

salient 13y ago
So disappointed no EU government is willing to stand up against mass surveillance by actually giving him asylum. They're all a bunch of cowards and hypocrites. Brazil sounds like a pretty good place for him to be, though, and he'd be getting the chance to work closer with Greenwald, too.
- weland 13y ago
  A good portion of the EU is made up of NATO members. It is, indeed, disappointing for me as well.
  - salient 13y ago
    That's no excuse. Democracies should stand up to democracy and human rights, not defend its "allies" at all costs - especially when said "allies" are backstabbing them by spying on every one of their citizens. That's why I think it's more cowardice than anything - or hypocrisy in the sense that they're just as bad, and would be just as bad as US in their situation, while pretending they aren't as bad right now.
- tbastos 13y ago
  The way several EU countries illegally blocked Evo Morale's plane after a phone call from Washington shows you how much Europe is under american dominion nowadays.
tbastos 13y ago
As a Brazilian living in Europe, I think Brazil would offer some compelling advantages for Snowden over Russia and Europe. Today, despite its many problems, Brazil offers more civil liberties and is more willing to confront the US than Europe. Our government is notoriously chaotic and naive, and ideologically most Brazilians are pro Snowden. He would find many allies there, not only Glenn Greenwald. His only concern in Brazil (besides violence etc.) would be not being kidnapped by the CIA and smuggled back to the US. In this regard Brazil is probably less safe than Russia. But Snowden is probably smart enough to handle this. It would be awesome to see Snowden enjoying the summer Olympics in Rio all healthy and tanned, taking pictures with american celebrities, accompanied by a Brazilian model, etc. Maybe this could help him stay in focus to eventually get his amnesty. It would also be a win for Brazil as they want to improve information security and Snowden is the best consultant they could possibly get. He would likely make a fair amount of money in Brazil, also.

So disappointed no EU government is willing to stand up against mass surveillance by actually giving him asylum. They're all a bunch of cowards and hypocrites. Brazil sounds like a pretty good place for him to be, though, and he'd be getting the chance to work closer with Greenwald, too.

weland 13y ago
A good portion of the EU is made up of NATO members. It is, indeed, disappointing for me as well.
- salient 13y ago
  That's no excuse. Democracies should stand up to democracy and human rights, not defend its "allies" at all costs - especially when said "allies" are backstabbing them by spying on every one of their citizens. That's why I think it's more cowardice than anything - or hypocrisy in the sense that they're just as bad, and would be just as bad as US in their situation, while pretending they aren't as bad right now.
tbastos 13y ago
The way several EU countries illegally blocked Evo Morale's plane after a phone call from Washington shows you how much Europe is under american dominion nowadays.

tbastos 13y ago

As a Brazilian living in Europe, I think Brazil would offer some compelling advantages for Snowden over Russia and Europe. Today, despite its many problems, Brazil offers more civil liberties and is more willing to confront the US than Europe. Our government is notoriously chaotic and naive, and ideologically most Brazilians are pro Snowden. He would find many allies there, not only Glenn Greenwald. His only concern in Brazil (besides violence etc.) would be not being kidnapped by the CIA and smuggled back to the US. In this regard Brazil is probably less safe than Russia. But Snowden is probably smart enough to handle this. It would be awesome to see Snowden enjoying the summer Olympics in Rio all healthy and tanned, taking pictures with american celebrities, accompanied by a Brazilian model, etc. Maybe this could help him stay in focus to eventually get his amnesty. It would also be a win for Brazil as they want to improve information security and Snowden is the best consultant they could possibly get. He would likely make a fair amount of money in Brazil, also.