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I think Orwellian surveillance was a degree worse because you could never escape it. Even in your most private spaces you had to act as if everything was ok, an
by ENGNR 13y ago
I think Orwellian surveillance was a degree worse because you could never escape it. Even in your most private spaces you had to act as if everything was ok, and the body lead the mind into thinking everything was ok.
Not that I'm defending current practices, but if we ever get to mandatory mass surveillance it will definitely be worse than covert mass surveillance that the most informed citizens can still choose to avoid.
- dreamfactory 13y agosince we all started walking around with internet-connected mobile devices with a ton of hardware sensors this got a lot trickier.
- declan 13y agoAnd let's not forget about FedGov reportedly activating laptop cameras without the indicator lights turning on (presumably microphones too): http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06...
- scarmig 13y agoBy being able to "choose to avoid," what do you mean? Simply that anyone can avoid surveillance by choosing not to communicate over phone, email, or http, and by not living in communities that directly or indirectly pass any of your information over any of those? With 1984, at least, the book implies that the proles had some measure of freedom from surveillance (though the plot also suggests that it's still there but more surreptitious). Short of living on a commune and totally removing yourself from the broader economy, what can people actually do to avoid NSA surveillance as it exists today, let alone a decade from now?
- praxulus 13y ago>phone, email, or http It's pretty easy for any two informed citizens to avoid those means of communication. When you're corresponding with someone who doesn't care if the government spies on them, no level of paranoia will keep your messages private.
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- glitchdout 13y agoWell, Skype, which is currently tapped by the NSA, is being used in Microsoft's Xbox and Kinect. So, much like in the book 1984, people have cameras in their living rooms. The difference is that in 1984, the cameras were put there by the government. Today, people themselves unknowingly put those cameras there.