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Certainly, the NSA is surely dug in like a tick when it comes to domestic surveillance. Even with this ruling, I'm sure it will be years before they actually s

by Zikes 13y ago

Certainly, the NSA is surely dug in like a tick when it comes to domestic surveillance. Even with this ruling, I'm sure it will be years before they actually stop the cited unconstitutional behavior, if ever. My question is, did the process fail in allowing it to happen in the first place, or is this correction after the fact the way the system is intended to work?

fat0wl 13y ago
"OK, now we'll really stop surveilling. promise!" they invested so much I'm sure this is how it is for good now, no turning back. that's the screwed up thing. America seems to have a lot of sunken cost fallacy. Once they've begun something it's easier to continue illegally than tear it all down. Same deal with 23andme Genome stuff. Makes more sense to them to operate illegally & take on the FDA than slow down a lucrative business.
- Zikes 13y ago
  I can seriously picture some sort of phased process where they stop doing one thing, and then another, over the course of several years. It would be as a result of this ruling or one like it, which explicitly calls out the behavior as invasive and harmful, but they would tread on as long as they could thanks to sunk costs. It'd be akin to a bully with a tazer saying "Well I've already spent the past several years tazing you several times a day and I spent sooo much on this fancy tazer, so how about we bring that down to just twice a day for the first year, then daily for the year after that, then every other day, and so on?"
ChristianMarks 13y ago
The NSA will adopt the mantra of "quit early, quit often," shrug off the sunk cost, and move on [1,2]. [1] http://freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/new-freakonomics-radio-podcast-the-upside-of-quitting/ http://freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/new-freakonomics-radio-po... [2] http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/harvard-business-school-prof-malhotras-speech-to-mbas-quit-early-and-quit-often http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/harvard-business-schoo...

by Zikes 13y ago

fat0wl 13y ago

"OK, now we'll really stop surveilling. promise!" they invested so much I'm sure this is how it is for good now, no turning back. that's the screwed up thing. America seems to have a lot of sunken cost fallacy. Once they've begun something it's easier to continue illegally than tear it all down. Same deal with 23andme Genome stuff. Makes more sense to them to operate illegally & take on the FDA than slow down a lucrative business.

Zikes 13y ago
I can seriously picture some sort of phased process where they stop doing one thing, and then another, over the course of several years. It would be as a result of this ruling or one like it, which explicitly calls out the behavior as invasive and harmful, but they would tread on as long as they could thanks to sunk costs. It'd be akin to a bully with a tazer saying "Well I've already spent the past several years tazing you several times a day and I spent sooo much on this fancy tazer, so how about we bring that down to just twice a day for the first year, then daily for the year after that, then every other day, and so on?"

ChristianMarks 13y ago

The NSA will adopt the mantra of "quit early, quit often," shrug off the sunk cost, and move on [1,2]. [1] http://freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/new-freakonomics-radio-podcast-the-upside-of-quitting/ http://freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/new-freakonomics-radio-po... [2] http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/harvard-business-school-prof-malhotras-speech-to-mbas-quit-early-and-quit-often http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/harvard-business-schoo...