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I hardest part I've noticed is judging the nicotine level you should start with. I started to high and ended up getting more addicted to nic then I had to begin

by comrh 13y ago

I hardest part I've noticed is judging the nicotine level you should start with. I started to high and ended up getting more addicted to nic then I had to begin with. After mixing the solution with 0% nic and slowly lowering the level I've successfully cut down my amount quite a bit.

bmelton 13y ago
I'm definitely in the 'more addicted' stage at this point, to the degree that I've rationalized away any need to quit. I'm actually entertaining something more like this[1], y'know, to have fun with it. [1] - https://www.thevaporgirl.com/Images/products/batteries/TGBatteries/Dragon%20Pipe/Dragon-Pipe3.jpg https://www.thevaporgirl.com/Images/products/batteries/TGBat...
- robmclarty 13y ago
  I think the main problem with e-cigs is that you're still taking in the addictive Nicotine. When you "cut down" and delay smoking, that next puff seems even more "pleasurable" because you're now relieving yourself of the physical withdrawal. That sort of "pleasure" messes with your mind because you think it feels good when in fact you're simply getting back to what non-smokers normally feel like (by removing the withdrawal symptoms). And then, only having delayed the inevitable, you're able to go another hour or two, before you withdraw again, and need another fix, re-addicting yourself again and again. I really don't understand the point of trying to quit using a drug while continuing to use said drug. IMHO the problem of quitting smoking is mostly a psychological one. If you can get your head on straight, the physical withdrawal symptoms are actually quite minimal.
  - bmelton 13y ago
    And therein lies the rub -- I don't mind being addicted to nicotine any more than I mind being addicted to caffeine. To my current knowledge, they both seem relatively harmless, aside from the addiction, until and unless one tries to quit them, which causes withdrawals, and the cost is effectively negligible. The main reason for quitting smoking had less to do with health concerns than cost, and not because the costs were unbearable, so much as that those costs were ridiculous. Ecigs have changed the equation, and so long as my nicotine budget stays lower than my caffeine budget, it's effectively negligible, however ignorant it might be. As for the rest, you're completely right. It is a psychological problem. I'd need to see a good reason for quitting nicotine before my head can agree that there is one. I was worried about the costs rising, but they seem to be going the other way. I was worried about the health risks of nicotine, but indicators seem to be trending towards 'ecigs' are safe... and while I'm aware that the science could be wrong, incomplete, or even manipulated, I've gone from 'trying to quit' to 'meh, it's a harmless vice' mentally.
- pault 13y ago
  Well, now I know what I'm getting myself for christmas.

by comrh 13y ago

bmelton 13y ago

I'm definitely in the 'more addicted' stage at this point, to the degree that I've rationalized away any need to quit. I'm actually entertaining something more like this[1], y'know, to have fun with it. [1] - https://www.thevaporgirl.com/Images/products/batteries/TGBatteries/Dragon%20Pipe/Dragon-Pipe3.jpg https://www.thevaporgirl.com/Images/products/batteries/TGBat...

robmclarty 13y ago
I think the main problem with e-cigs is that you're still taking in the addictive Nicotine. When you "cut down" and delay smoking, that next puff seems even more "pleasurable" because you're now relieving yourself of the physical withdrawal. That sort of "pleasure" messes with your mind because you think it feels good when in fact you're simply getting back to what non-smokers normally feel like (by removing the withdrawal symptoms). And then, only having delayed the inevitable, you're able to go another hour or two, before you withdraw again, and need another fix, re-addicting yourself again and again. I really don't understand the point of trying to quit using a drug while continuing to use said drug. IMHO the problem of quitting smoking is mostly a psychological one. If you can get your head on straight, the physical withdrawal symptoms are actually quite minimal.
- bmelton 13y ago
  And therein lies the rub -- I don't mind being addicted to nicotine any more than I mind being addicted to caffeine. To my current knowledge, they both seem relatively harmless, aside from the addiction, until and unless one tries to quit them, which causes withdrawals, and the cost is effectively negligible. The main reason for quitting smoking had less to do with health concerns than cost, and not because the costs were unbearable, so much as that those costs were ridiculous. Ecigs have changed the equation, and so long as my nicotine budget stays lower than my caffeine budget, it's effectively negligible, however ignorant it might be. As for the rest, you're completely right. It is a psychological problem. I'd need to see a good reason for quitting nicotine before my head can agree that there is one. I was worried about the costs rising, but they seem to be going the other way. I was worried about the health risks of nicotine, but indicators seem to be trending towards 'ecigs' are safe... and while I'm aware that the science could be wrong, incomplete, or even manipulated, I've gone from 'trying to quit' to 'meh, it's a harmless vice' mentally.
pault 13y ago
Well, now I know what I'm getting myself for christmas.