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So is this the Bluestar or not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_BlueStar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_BlueStar 2015 would be on track for the Bluesta

by salient 13y ago

So is this the Bluestar or not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_BlueStar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_BlueStar 2015 would be on track for the Bluestar, but I remember Musk saying this year that it was basically delayed until 2017, which was pretty disappointing. I wonder what changed. Either way, $20,000 Tesla in 2018 then? It would follow Tesla's strategy of releasing a new car every 3 years that costs half as much as the previous one. Even a $25,000 one would be very nice. If I were them I'd try to make it my goal to have a $20,000 car by 2020 (like those nice renewable energy goals). I think in the 2020's electric cars will become mainstream, and most new sold cars would be electric, due to the mainstream price-point they will reach, and the mainstream-level mileage they would get by then. According to Musk batteries improve the capacity (at the same price point) by 5-8 percent per year, which is a little slow, but still great news for electric cars in the long term, considering they can get batteries for half the price or double the mileage every 10 years.

secabeen 13y ago
This is bluestar. Rumors have the formal announcement and possible concept vehicle at the 2015 Detroit Auto Show. They'd start taking reservations then with deliveries scheduled in 2017 or 2018. It's pretty much the same model as the S and X, both of which had 2 year delays between announcement and delivery.
- rdl 13y ago
  I wonder if they'll announce a rev of the Model S at the same time just to keep sales of that model up.
djloche 13y ago
I want to again remind folks that the 29k guess/rumored price is / will be the 'starting at' price. The Model S "starts" at 60k, but the version that isn't nerfed due to a small battery is $90k. The people giving the amazing, raving reviews of the Model S are talking about the high end of the price range model, not the 'starting at' model. The next revision (model E) won't be an 'everyone' Tesla - In order to be an 'everyone' car, they'd be looking at going head to head with the Honda Civic (18k) and Toyota Corolla (17k). I want that as much as anyone else - but it's still another tech generation away to get those batteries made at a low enough cost to be viable. I think they can do the 30-60k car merely with economies of scale, but to halve the cost again is going to take a new generation of battery tech that isn't here yet.
jychang 13y ago
If the model E is $35,000 like this article mentioned, it would be more than competitive to something like a Civic or a Camary. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%243.50%2Fgal%29%2F%2825mpg%29*100%2C000+miles+-+%28%24.0382%2Fmile%29*100%2C000+miles+ http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%243.50%2Fgal%29%2F%... http://teslarumors.com/USA-Residental-Energy-Cost-2011-by-State.html http://teslarumors.com/USA-Residental-Energy-Cost-2011-by-St... https://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+camry+cost https://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+camry+cost Someone should save $10k over 100k miles of driving with an electric car vs using gas. Adding in the $7500 US government tax credit, if Tesla priced the model E at $35,000, it would be very comparable to something like a Camry.

by salient 13y ago

secabeen 13y ago

This is bluestar. Rumors have the formal announcement and possible concept vehicle at the 2015 Detroit Auto Show. They'd start taking reservations then with deliveries scheduled in 2017 or 2018. It's pretty much the same model as the S and X, both of which had 2 year delays between announcement and delivery.

rdl 13y ago
I wonder if they'll announce a rev of the Model S at the same time just to keep sales of that model up.

djloche 13y ago

I want to again remind folks that the 29k guess/rumored price is / will be the 'starting at' price. The Model S "starts" at 60k, but the version that isn't nerfed due to a small battery is $90k. The people giving the amazing, raving reviews of the Model S are talking about the high end of the price range model, not the 'starting at' model. The next revision (model E) won't be an 'everyone' Tesla - In order to be an 'everyone' car, they'd be looking at going head to head with the Honda Civic (18k) and Toyota Corolla (17k). I want that as much as anyone else - but it's still another tech generation away to get those batteries made at a low enough cost to be viable. I think they can do the 30-60k car merely with economies of scale, but to halve the cost again is going to take a new generation of battery tech that isn't here yet.

jychang 13y ago

If the model E is $35,000 like this article mentioned, it would be more than competitive to something like a Civic or a Camary. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%243.50%2Fgal%29%2F%2825mpg%29*100%2C000+miles+-+%28%24.0382%2Fmile%29*100%2C000+miles+ http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%243.50%2Fgal%29%2F%... http://teslarumors.com/USA-Residental-Energy-Cost-2011-by-State.html http://teslarumors.com/USA-Residental-Energy-Cost-2011-by-St... https://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+camry+cost https://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+camry+cost Someone should save $10k over 100k miles of driving with an electric car vs using gas. Adding in the $7500 US government tax credit, if Tesla priced the model E at $35,000, it would be very comparable to something like a Camry.