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Really? why should anyone trust in anything coming from the NSA when you are systematically lying again and again? why should we listen to anything you say when

by pera 13y ago

Really? why should anyone trust in anything coming from the NSA when you are systematically lying again and again? why should we listen to anything you say when historically, part of your strategy is to try to influence the PoV of society || specifics groups? Specifically: how are you so sure about what the NSA is doing? in your article you say that the NSA does not do SI on US citizens without a warrant, but how can you really know that if you are just another worker? I don't think you can... but hey, you seem like a smart person so why are you making that kind of statement? > I was not asked to write this, nor guided in its contents by the government. I find this hard to believe, especially coming from someone in your area: if there is no way for us to verify this statement, then how relevant can this comment be for us?

csandreasen 13y ago
why should anyone trust in anything coming from the NSA when you are systematically lying again and again? That's a bold claim - do you have any evidence that lorendsr, who is by his own admission no longer employed by the NSA, has been systematically lying again and again? Or that historically, part of his strategy is to try to influence society or specific groups? Or are you claiming that part of the NSA's employment process is the removal of independent thought and plugging into the collective hive mind?
- shitlord 13y ago
  > Or are you claiming that part of the NSA's employment process is the removal of independent thought and plugging into the collective hive mind? That is most likely the reason. Even reddit doesn't jerk this hard. The OP's submission is a valuable one, even if you disagree with his views.
  - typon 13y ago
    Of course it's valuable - as evidence of the brainwashing NSA employees must go through to justify their actions to themselves and their families.
- pera 13y ago
  > That's a bold claim - do you have any evidence that lorendsr I meant "you" the NSA, not lorendsr... I don't know him. But yeah, sorry if my distrust of people who say they worked for a government agency that has as its main PR policy lying and manipulating public opinion sounds harsh... I'm just a bit angry because I'm not a US citizen and I know that my use of pgp,otr,tor,i2p,self-signed certs is enough to make some powerful organization start registering every single move I do on the Internet.

by pera 13y ago

csandreasen 13y ago

why should anyone trust in anything coming from the NSA when you are systematically lying again and again? That's a bold claim - do you have any evidence that lorendsr, who is by his own admission no longer employed by the NSA, has been systematically lying again and again? Or that historically, part of his strategy is to try to influence society or specific groups? Or are you claiming that part of the NSA's employment process is the removal of independent thought and plugging into the collective hive mind?

shitlord 13y ago
> Or are you claiming that part of the NSA's employment process is the removal of independent thought and plugging into the collective hive mind? That is most likely the reason. Even reddit doesn't jerk this hard. The OP's submission is a valuable one, even if you disagree with his views.
- typon 13y ago
  Of course it's valuable - as evidence of the brainwashing NSA employees must go through to justify their actions to themselves and their families.
pera 13y ago
> That's a bold claim - do you have any evidence that lorendsr I meant "you" the NSA, not lorendsr... I don't know him. But yeah, sorry if my distrust of people who say they worked for a government agency that has as its main PR policy lying and manipulating public opinion sounds harsh... I'm just a bit angry because I'm not a US citizen and I know that my use of pgp,otr,tor,i2p,self-signed certs is enough to make some powerful organization start registering every single move I do on the Internet.