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If they're in California, their over-time without pay is illegal and I've seen more than one company get reamed by the Department of Labor over it.
by Einstalbert 13y ago
If they're in California, their over-time without pay is illegal and I've seen more than one company get reamed by the Department of Labor over it.
- flatline 13y agoHmm WaPo, Fairfax, I think you may be onto something here...
- gaius 13y agoProgrammer is an exempt job.
- rhizome 13y agoNot always.
- mhurron 13y agoThe only time I've seen where it wouldn't be exempt is if you paid them hourly.
- gohrt 13y ago"Salary" jobs are exempt, but certain jobs are non-exempt by law, because the work is considered so hourly-like and non-independent that the "salary" is considered a sham. (Example: You can't be a "exempt, salaried" clerk at a store if you are required to be at the store from 8am to 6pm and are required to do a specific set of tasks in a prescribed way.)
- mhurron 13y agoThat doesn't say anything about the situation where programmers would ever be non-exempt unless you paid them hourly instead of a salary.
- stonemetal 13y agoIt isn't that simple. For a software developer to be exempt their salary must be above 83K a year[1]. That is why EA ran a foul of it even though their devs were salaried. [1]http://www.gotovertime.com/computer_pro.html http://www.gotovertime.com/computer_pro.html
- moron4hire 13y agoIt's been illegal in every state I've ever lived in, but every employer I've ever had has expected it.
- rhizome 13y agoThen keep notes of your hours. When you leave, you can get paid for them.
- gaadd33 13y agoHow do most companies in California avoid getting caught Under federal law most salaried jobs are exempt from paying overtime, I didn't know that California had changed that. What sort of overtime pay do programmers at Google and Apple get these days?