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"She had accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving foreign nationals, alleged serious security breaches and cover-ups and that intelligence

"She had accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving foreign nationals, alleged serious security breaches and cover-ups and that intelligence had been deliberately suppressed, endangering national security." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds

joejohnson 13y ago
From Wikipedia: "Edmonds testified before the 9/11 Commission, but her testimony was excluded from the official 567 page 9/11 Commission Report." Publicly questioning the official 9/11 story is a great way to be ridiculed. The media and other propaganda outlets have so effectively labelled anything contrary to the party line as "conspiracy theory", discrediting anyone who points out the hundreds and hundreds of holes in the official story. The only credible theory (taking a cold look at the facts that have come to light over the past 12 years) is that AT THE VERY LEAST the US Government knew about 9/11 in advance. Maybe, with time, it will become more socially acceptable to openly wonder what really happened. And probably by that time, most people won't give a shit.
- knowaveragejoe 13y ago
  Er, maybe that's because conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 often go off into complete nonsense? We already know the US intelligence community failed to put together the pieces before 9/11. There are dozens of conspiracy theories regarding 9/11, all of them with holes of their own.
- thenmar 13y ago
  Could you provide a summary or breakdown (with sources?) of the facts about the U.S. government knowing about 9/11 in advance (and allowing it to happen when they could have stopped it or evacuated the buildings, as you're implying)? If you do have some knowledge I don't, putting it in an accessible form like that would be very helpful - a lot of 9/11 "truth" material is steeped in scifi conspiracy nonsense or global elite lizard people type stuff. Or if you ask for clarification, you're told to watch a 2 hour youtube video filled with "many experts agree that this is wrong" weasel words.
  - OneOffAcct 13y ago
    Read through all of this wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger The 'official' conclusion was that the program did not correctly identify the 9/11 hijackers and plot in advance, but not everyone involved in the operation believes that.
  - joejohnson 13y ago
    There's interesting information and links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_9/11_Commission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_9/11_Commissio... One particularly good example: John Farmer, Jr., senior counsel to the Commission stated that the Commission "discovered that...what government and military officials had told Congress, the Commission, the media, and the public about who knew what when — was almost entirely, and inexplicably, untrue." Farmer continues: "At some level of the government, at some point in time … there was a decision not to tell the truth about what happened...The (NORAD) tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public."[1] Thomas Kean, the head of the 9/11 Commission, concurred: "We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth." [1]: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/books-and-literature/reviews/the-ground-truth/article_97bbba18-d273-5995-96ed-33a05a57e1ed.html http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/books-and-literature/r...

joejohnson 13y ago

From Wikipedia: "Edmonds testified before the 9/11 Commission, but her testimony was excluded from the official 567 page 9/11 Commission Report." Publicly questioning the official 9/11 story is a great way to be ridiculed. The media and other propaganda outlets have so effectively labelled anything contrary to the party line as "conspiracy theory", discrediting anyone who points out the hundreds and hundreds of holes in the official story. The only credible theory (taking a cold look at the facts that have come to light over the past 12 years) is that AT THE VERY LEAST the US Government knew about 9/11 in advance. Maybe, with time, it will become more socially acceptable to openly wonder what really happened. And probably by that time, most people won't give a shit.

knowaveragejoe 13y ago
Er, maybe that's because conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 often go off into complete nonsense? We already know the US intelligence community failed to put together the pieces before 9/11. There are dozens of conspiracy theories regarding 9/11, all of them with holes of their own.
thenmar 13y ago
Could you provide a summary or breakdown (with sources?) of the facts about the U.S. government knowing about 9/11 in advance (and allowing it to happen when they could have stopped it or evacuated the buildings, as you're implying)? If you do have some knowledge I don't, putting it in an accessible form like that would be very helpful - a lot of 9/11 "truth" material is steeped in scifi conspiracy nonsense or global elite lizard people type stuff. Or if you ask for clarification, you're told to watch a 2 hour youtube video filled with "many experts agree that this is wrong" weasel words.
- OneOffAcct 13y ago
  Read through all of this wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger The 'official' conclusion was that the program did not correctly identify the 9/11 hijackers and plot in advance, but not everyone involved in the operation believes that.
- joejohnson 13y ago
  There's interesting information and links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_9/11_Commission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_9/11_Commissio... One particularly good example: John Farmer, Jr., senior counsel to the Commission stated that the Commission "discovered that...what government and military officials had told Congress, the Commission, the media, and the public about who knew what when — was almost entirely, and inexplicably, untrue." Farmer continues: "At some level of the government, at some point in time … there was a decision not to tell the truth about what happened...The (NORAD) tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public."[1] Thomas Kean, the head of the 9/11 Commission, concurred: "We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth." [1]: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/books-and-literature/reviews/the-ground-truth/article_97bbba18-d273-5995-96ed-33a05a57e1ed.html http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/books-and-literature/r...