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The US has really always been "practical" when it comes to Civil Liberties during times of war or disaster, going back to the Alien and Sedition Act: https://en
by j_baker 13y ago
The US has really always been "practical" when it comes to Civil Liberties during times of war or disaster, going back to the Alien and Sedition Act: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts
It's easy to be cynical about the way the US government is heading, but I believe that Americans care too much about their rights to let this type of thing continue. I mean, sure we have our fair share of threats to our democracy, but we also have a lot of rights in terms of fighting those threats. For example, I feel we have stronger protections for freedom of speech than most industrialized countries.
As I understand it, in the UK you have nothing to prevent prior restraint on the part of the government. That is, the government can censor you before you publish something. In the US, this is illegal (Of course, the government can still punish you for publishing something illegal. They can only do it after it's been published.)
Also, we've gone to great lengths to protect the rights of even the worst groups (the KKK, Fred Phelps and company), while some countries have provisions against this sort of thing.
Long story short, I'm disappointed with the state of American democracy, but I'm hopeful. I think when more people learn about what's going on behind the scenes, things will change for the better.
EDIT: Here's a fun fact. Part of the Alien and Sedition acts are still the law in the US: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/21 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/21
- cdash 13y agoWhen is the US not at war though? Almost never as far as I know.
- jkrems 13y agoThe UK is maybe the worst example for freedom (just because they have a tradition of security being more important - it's the country of 1984 and "Brave New World" after all). Comparing America with France and Germany you get a different picture of freedom of speech imho. I did not hear about people in those countries being held at airports for indefinite time because they were suspected of being in contact with journalists who published the wrong thing.
- maratd 13y ago> Comparing America with France and Germany you get a different picture of freedom of speech imho. Germany is a terrible example of free speech. So is France. The parent is right, US is still way ahead on this specific point. Remember, free speech is the ability to voice extremely unpopular views without persecution by the state. Saying something everybody agrees with is not representative.