I'd argue that a certification from a technical school (auto tech, HVAC guys, plumbers, electricians, etc) is worth more than a lib arts degree from a state uni

I'd argue that a certification from a technical school (auto tech, HVAC guys, plumbers, electricians, etc) is worth more than a lib arts degree from a state uni at this point. I sometimes think the "T" in STEM should stand for "Technology/Trade skills".