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Patents are a legal construct designed by and for corporations for their benefit. To argue that they are somehow not capitalist is somewhat disingenuous isn't

Patents are a legal construct designed by and for corporations for their benefit. To argue that they are somehow not capitalist is somewhat disingenuous isn't it? It always bothers me when I see absolutist statements such as this one. Are you claiming that there's some plausible 'pure-capitalism' existent outside of all laws? Isn't the basis of capitalism itself wholly dependent on the governmental construct called currency? What about policing and a court system? It's hard to imagine anything approximating the modern idea of trade without those functions. When you boil things down, 'government' is just a set of rules we all agree to. Capitalism is a set of rules we agree to in the area of trade. These are inexorably linked ideas.

davidiach 13y ago
>Patents are a legal construct designed by and for corporations for their benefit. To argue that they are somehow not capitalist is somewhat disingenuous isn't it? Some people distinguish between free market capitalism and crony capitalism. Others don't. Some of the people who make the distinction do not consider crony capitalism to be capitalism. That is why you will see people who say things like patents are not capitalist or Too big to fail is anti-capitalist.
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eatitraw 13y ago
> To argue that they are somehow not capitalist is somewhat disingenuous isn't it? There is even a term for this: "laissez faire capitalism". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire > Isn't the basis of capitalism itself wholly dependent on the governmental construct called currency? No, we've used gold for hundreds of years without any government intervention. Fiat money is relatively recent invention. More recent example: bitcoin, which works as currency without any governments. > It's hard to imagine anything approximating the modern idea of trade without those functions. Yes, but these services can be provided through free market. They'll become more cheap and available. Take for example government-run courts: they are slow, inefficient and expensive(which is the reason why patent trolling is viable: in many cases it is cheaper to hand some money to at troll instead of trying to resolve a conflict using government system). True, such ideas may seem radical to you(No government, won't there be violence and chaos?!). If you want to know how such system will work, take a look at Murray Rothbard's awesome book "For a new liberty: libertarian manifesto" mises.org/rothbard/foranewlb.pdf . There is a chapter "The Public Sector, III: Police, Law, and the Courts", which you'll enjoy.

davidiach 13y ago

>Patents are a legal construct designed by and for corporations for their benefit. To argue that they are somehow not capitalist is somewhat disingenuous isn't it? Some people distinguish between free market capitalism and crony capitalism. Others don't. Some of the people who make the distinction do not consider crony capitalism to be capitalism. That is why you will see people who say things like patents are not capitalist or Too big to fail is anti-capitalist.

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eatitraw 13y ago

> To argue that they are somehow not capitalist is somewhat disingenuous isn't it? There is even a term for this: "laissez faire capitalism". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire > Isn't the basis of capitalism itself wholly dependent on the governmental construct called currency? No, we've used gold for hundreds of years without any government intervention. Fiat money is relatively recent invention. More recent example: bitcoin, which works as currency without any governments. > It's hard to imagine anything approximating the modern idea of trade without those functions. Yes, but these services can be provided through free market. They'll become more cheap and available. Take for example government-run courts: they are slow, inefficient and expensive(which is the reason why patent trolling is viable: in many cases it is cheaper to hand some money to at troll instead of trying to resolve a conflict using government system). True, such ideas may seem radical to you(No government, won't there be violence and chaos?!). If you want to know how such system will work, take a look at Murray Rothbard's awesome book "For a new liberty: libertarian manifesto" mises.org/rothbard/foranewlb.pdf . There is a chapter "The Public Sector, III: Police, Law, and the Courts", which you'll enjoy.