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Apparently iPhone apps are undiscoverable as well... or so your comment implies. Then special casing is not ideal and i'm fairly sure flash does get indexed th
by lsd5you 17y ago
Apparently iPhone apps are undiscoverable as well... or so your comment implies.
Then special casing is not ideal and i'm fairly sure flash does get indexed these days.
Its apparent you don't want it, but does the iPhone need Flash? I don't know - i don't have one, but i would think its only a matter of time.
- antirez 17y agowith HTML5 going forward the "flash is needed for videos" idea is going to vanish...
- JunkDNA 17y agoNot only is the "flash is needed for videos" idea going to vanish. The impact of the relentless improvements being made to the JS engines in Firefox, Safari, and Chrome are hard to over state. At some point, the combination of HTML5 and high performance JS starts to make me wonder how many other current applications of flash are doomed as well. It won't happen overnight, but I think the writing is certainly on the wall.
- falava 17y agoThe JS improvements in Firefox its called Tamarin tracing and comes from the Flash engine, donated by Adobe, so they also want a fast js in the browser: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/ http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/ Adobe was also a big proponent of SVG standard (for vectorial graphics) with their very own plugin, until they purchased Macromedia. Because Macromedia did a incredible, really great job pushing their plugin into the vast majority of browsers (google flash plugin penetration ~ 99%). They accomplished that by making a tool that web developers wanted and people liked, with a smaller plugin and better than any other company: fast animations (remember the pain of making gif89a or a java applet?), mp3 sounds! (remember midi, wav, au, aiff or the BGSOUND tag?), typography, any font! (not just Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Times or Georgia), vector graphics that downloads and renders fast (is there any website using SVG now?), streaming video embeded into the html page (better than real player, quicktime or windows media, because it works almost for everybody, except the iPhone users, except when watching YouTube), microphone and webcam support, and now (with flash 10) they are putting 3d inside their plugin (before anyone could say OpenGL ES). In an ideal world we would have solid standards, but in this world we have the W3C, and the abandoned XHTML2 or CSS3, unimplemented by the browsers CSS2, SVG, SMIL, and so on... That is why we have got the propietary Futuresplash-Macromedia-Adobe Flash leading the web to its full potencial, in place of the W3C, or Sun's Java applets, Microsoft's ActiveX or Silverlight, Adobe PDF+scripts, Google nativeclient... but Macromedia did better.
- bobidden 17y agoWikipedia has a lot of charts and such as SVGs. But I've never seen it anywhere else.
- chaosprophet 17y ago> with HTML5 going forward the "flash is needed for videos" idea is going to vanish... Never mind the fact that you will have to go forward about 10 years before most browsers support HTML5 in it's entirety.
- tewks 17y agoFirefox, Safari, Opera, and Chrome, four of the top five browsers, now support the video tag. Despite the codec war, it can be argued that most browsers today do in fact support HTML5 enough to support the parent's comment.
- illumen 17y agoMost people do not use browsers which support the video tag. Those people that do use a browser that does - well each of those browsers implements it differently.
- axod 17y agoFWIW, if the iPhone ever does get flash, I may stop having an iPhone. Do not want.
- smanek 17y agoWhy? It will be easy to disable.
- pavel_lishin 17y agoThat seems like an unwarranted assumption, but I'm going to be an optimist and agree with you.
- axod 17y agoThe mere fact they include it would make me really question their taste and ideals.