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No, if he broke into other people's property (and not merely for the challenge of cracking a safe, i.e. malicious intent) then I hope to see him stand for his c

No, if he broke into other people's property (and not merely for the challenge of cracking a safe, i.e. malicious intent) then I hope to see him stand for his crimes. I'm only suggesting that we shouldn't be so quick to take the word of the authorities. Many powerful people would be delighted to see the creators of TPB suffer punishment, justified or not. We should reserve judgement until hearing evidence.

ivanca 13y ago
In this world where the USA government throws billions of dollars to spy its own citizens and foreigners it wouldn't be one bit surprising if we discover media companies are spending millions of dollars trying to create false accusations to bring its enemies down (it would explain Assange trial too)
- Svip 13y ago
  Maybe. But no private company has charged Svartholm Warg with anything in this case. He is only being charged by the Danish authorities. And Danish authorities are not exactly known for their ruthlessness.
  - ivanca 13y ago
    Money can make people do things they are 'not known for', and I'm talking about completely made-up crimes because for them it's way smarter: 1) Avoid tarnishing the public view of their media company where PR is very important. 2) Supporters seem conflicted ("is about other thing!"). 3) The penalty of those crimes is not controversial (in this case: security information theft) 4) Therefore it doesn't cause a big media fuzz 5) Legislation about the crimes he is being charged with are not likely to change in the future so no new laws with retroactive repercussions will set him free. 6) It still inflicts fear upon similar enemies, because he's still know as "the pirate bay guy who is in jail" not the "the cracker who stole confidential data who is in jail"
    - ballard 13y ago
      Fear to defend one's stature or business is often the bullshit used to compartmentalize the means to reach an end that "protects" something, in spite of costs to others. That seems to fit the definition of concrete, areligous "evil." It's shitty, but many decision-makers are fine with expedience if it can't come back to them.
  - ballard 13y ago
    People that control content licenses and distribution aren't all stupid. The lobbyists and industry groups do the dirty work to "defend" their client's interests. Perhaps the Pirate Party and TPB should invest in covert dirty tricks people like Rove. Such people are not valued for their ostensible vestigial allegiance to a political persuasion but are willing to accomplish feats force and cries for mercy could never begin to hope to achieve. Otherwise, TPB and similar are sitting ducks in a war they don't understand how to fight... Politics and greed.

ivanca 13y ago

In this world where the USA government throws billions of dollars to spy its own citizens and foreigners it wouldn't be one bit surprising if we discover media companies are spending millions of dollars trying to create false accusations to bring its enemies down (it would explain Assange trial too)

Svip 13y ago
Maybe. But no private company has charged Svartholm Warg with anything in this case. He is only being charged by the Danish authorities. And Danish authorities are not exactly known for their ruthlessness.
- ivanca 13y ago
  Money can make people do things they are 'not known for', and I'm talking about completely made-up crimes because for them it's way smarter: 1) Avoid tarnishing the public view of their media company where PR is very important. 2) Supporters seem conflicted ("is about other thing!"). 3) The penalty of those crimes is not controversial (in this case: security information theft) 4) Therefore it doesn't cause a big media fuzz 5) Legislation about the crimes he is being charged with are not likely to change in the future so no new laws with retroactive repercussions will set him free. 6) It still inflicts fear upon similar enemies, because he's still know as "the pirate bay guy who is in jail" not the "the cracker who stole confidential data who is in jail"
  - ballard 13y ago
    Fear to defend one's stature or business is often the bullshit used to compartmentalize the means to reach an end that "protects" something, in spite of costs to others. That seems to fit the definition of concrete, areligous "evil." It's shitty, but many decision-makers are fine with expedience if it can't come back to them.
- ballard 13y ago
  People that control content licenses and distribution aren't all stupid. The lobbyists and industry groups do the dirty work to "defend" their client's interests. Perhaps the Pirate Party and TPB should invest in covert dirty tricks people like Rove. Such people are not valued for their ostensible vestigial allegiance to a political persuasion but are willing to accomplish feats force and cries for mercy could never begin to hope to achieve. Otherwise, TPB and similar are sitting ducks in a war they don't understand how to fight... Politics and greed.