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That sounds like it can be a good personal motivator if it's done privately, though. It brings to mind what I do when I am having problems with my focus. I ke

by dhimes 13y ago

That sounds like it can be a good personal motivator if it's done privately, though. It brings to mind what I do when I am having problems with my focus. I keep something like a "ship's log" of my time. I just note the time of day when I start doing something and then the time when my concentration breaks. Next to it I write what I was doing. Now I have a record of what I did, something like 1543-1555 fooled around on Hacker News 1555-1602 bathroom 1602-1619 worked on presentation 1620-1643 worked on presentation and so on. So I can look back and see that my focus wasn't very good- I 'came out of it' after just a few minutes. And in the same way that forcing myself to log what I eat helps my diet, after a few things like that above I find the discipline to keep persevering when my attention starts to wane. I think when we wear many hats we're susceptible to unproductive states of mind, and this little hack helps me a lot. But I don't think it would be a good idea for public display. Depending on the boss, maybe it would be ok if s/he looked at it, but I dunno. I've never had a boss I didn't completely trust, but I think I'm pretty lucky that way. Maybe snippets would work if they were just between a manager and his or her reports.

thothamon 13y ago
Never had a boss you did not completely trust? NEVER? I'd say you're beyond pretty lucky and into extraordinarily fortunate, and congratulations to you. I've only had two bosses I completely trusted, and one of them is myself. And now that I think of it, I don't even completely trust myself.
- dhimes 13y ago
  Never. I've only had a couple of bosses, and one (or two, if you count a research advisor) was in academia.
- JimboOmega 13y ago
  Even if you do "trust" your boss, I still feel like there's a carefully curated image of yourself you want them to see. It's a pretty basic strategy - if everyone else is fluffing up their reports, you sure don't want to be the one who isn't.
vidarh 13y ago
I have a spreadsheet I use now and again to log in a similar way to what you do, but I additionally classify the time into work/personal/study/procrastination etc., and which charts the time breakdown. Occasionally I will run it for a day, or even up to a week, check the breakdown, and pick goals to improve on, run it another week etc. Running it all the time is too time consuming in itself, but occasional "checkpoints" help ensuring I maintain good habits etc. Would never show it to my boss though - I feel confidentiality for those kinds of things are necessary to ensure you're absolutely honest with yourself. I'd happily recommend people working for me do the same, including withholding it from me.
visakanv 13y ago
I do this on my private google calendar when I'm in the zone. It works wonders. What gets measured gets managed. (I can only speak for self-management, I'm completely unqualified to talk about managing others)
brc 13y ago
Err...RescueTime? Automates it all and self-games so you can set your own targets to beat. The best part is that you actually think twice about going to that non-productive site because you know it's going to be staring back at you at the end of week report. Of course it takes discipline but sometimes little tools help.
- specialist 13y ago
  Good tip, thanks. I'm dabbling with quantified self strategies. I want to cover everything. Health (BP, glucose, etc), food, pills, github commits, potty breaks, phone/chat/email, exercise, and most importantly sleep. I want the data collection done passively (I will never journal). I even want the total self app to periodically ask me what my mental state is. "Are you happy?" "Do you have a head ache?" "How does your tummy feel?"
- j_s 13y ago
  Also http://www.timesnapper.com/DownloadClassic.aspx http://www.timesnapper.com/DownloadClassic.aspx can be helpful (on Windows)
ufmace 13y ago
I've been doing something kinda similar for a long time, more like a work diary than a ship's log. I don't write down times or non-work things I'm doing, but I do keep a running log of everything I work on, including what part I'm working on, what I'm trying to get it to do, what solutions I'm trying, thoughts on them, any appropriate bug IDs, changeset IDs, etc. It's meant to be for my eyes only, so no worries about not offending anybody with what I really think of their code or appearing to be sufficiently productive to management or other such things. I find it very useful for stuff like reminding myself what I was working on yesterday, last week, etc, what I was doing on it and why, and that sort of thing. Being able to search for class names, bug IDs, and changeset IDs is pretty handy too for getting more insight into why I did something, even if it was a while ago. I think it helps keep me more productive too, since I don't want to have to look back on what I did yesterday and only see a couple of sentences.
informatimago 13y ago
On one project I did that, very previse reporting. The customer wasn't happy about it, wondering if I was bullshiting him. At another customer's there was a time reporting software. But instead of reporting real time, we were instructed to report normalized times over an 8-hour work day.
- dhimes 13y ago
  Yeah, that may be a little too detailed for customer reporting. It works for me for personal logging though.

by dhimes 13y ago

thothamon 13y ago

Never had a boss you did not completely trust? NEVER? I'd say you're beyond pretty lucky and into extraordinarily fortunate, and congratulations to you. I've only had two bosses I completely trusted, and one of them is myself. And now that I think of it, I don't even completely trust myself.

dhimes 13y ago
Never. I've only had a couple of bosses, and one (or two, if you count a research advisor) was in academia.
JimboOmega 13y ago
Even if you do "trust" your boss, I still feel like there's a carefully curated image of yourself you want them to see. It's a pretty basic strategy - if everyone else is fluffing up their reports, you sure don't want to be the one who isn't.

vidarh 13y ago

I have a spreadsheet I use now and again to log in a similar way to what you do, but I additionally classify the time into work/personal/study/procrastination etc., and which charts the time breakdown. Occasionally I will run it for a day, or even up to a week, check the breakdown, and pick goals to improve on, run it another week etc. Running it all the time is too time consuming in itself, but occasional "checkpoints" help ensuring I maintain good habits etc. Would never show it to my boss though - I feel confidentiality for those kinds of things are necessary to ensure you're absolutely honest with yourself. I'd happily recommend people working for me do the same, including withholding it from me.

visakanv 13y ago

I do this on my private google calendar when I'm in the zone. It works wonders. What gets measured gets managed. (I can only speak for self-management, I'm completely unqualified to talk about managing others)

brc 13y ago

Err...RescueTime? Automates it all and self-games so you can set your own targets to beat. The best part is that you actually think twice about going to that non-productive site because you know it's going to be staring back at you at the end of week report. Of course it takes discipline but sometimes little tools help.

specialist 13y ago
Good tip, thanks. I'm dabbling with quantified self strategies. I want to cover everything. Health (BP, glucose, etc), food, pills, github commits, potty breaks, phone/chat/email, exercise, and most importantly sleep. I want the data collection done passively (I will never journal). I even want the total self app to periodically ask me what my mental state is. "Are you happy?" "Do you have a head ache?" "How does your tummy feel?"
j_s 13y ago
Also http://www.timesnapper.com/DownloadClassic.aspx http://www.timesnapper.com/DownloadClassic.aspx can be helpful (on Windows)

ufmace 13y ago

I've been doing something kinda similar for a long time, more like a work diary than a ship's log. I don't write down times or non-work things I'm doing, but I do keep a running log of everything I work on, including what part I'm working on, what I'm trying to get it to do, what solutions I'm trying, thoughts on them, any appropriate bug IDs, changeset IDs, etc. It's meant to be for my eyes only, so no worries about not offending anybody with what I really think of their code or appearing to be sufficiently productive to management or other such things. I find it very useful for stuff like reminding myself what I was working on yesterday, last week, etc, what I was doing on it and why, and that sort of thing. Being able to search for class names, bug IDs, and changeset IDs is pretty handy too for getting more insight into why I did something, even if it was a while ago. I think it helps keep me more productive too, since I don't want to have to look back on what I did yesterday and only see a couple of sentences.

informatimago 13y ago

On one project I did that, very previse reporting. The customer wasn't happy about it, wondering if I was bullshiting him. At another customer's there was a time reporting software. But instead of reporting real time, we were instructed to report normalized times over an 8-hour work day.

dhimes 13y ago
Yeah, that may be a little too detailed for customer reporting. It works for me for personal logging though.