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This clearly shows Yogaglo and the people there did not gain anything by practicing the Yoga they are preaching. They don't have any idea of what Yoga stands fo

by avisk 13y ago

This clearly shows Yogaglo and the people there did not gain anything by practicing the Yoga they are preaching. They don't have any idea of what Yoga stands for. If Patanjali had patented his Yoga sutras , we may not even be aware about this great practice.

Jgrubb 13y ago
I think that is what has my righteous indignation stoked much higher than the average absurd patent trolling news. I just can't fathom how someone who is supposedly "business minded" in this field could think it was a good idea to patent this, much less to start sending C&Ds to non-profits.
loceng 13y ago
It just shows us that it's business-minded people in control, who are running, YogaGlo.
- meddlepal 13y ago
  I will bite, what's so bad about business-minded people running a business?
  - rhizome 13y ago
    You're casting about in a generalization, but one problem is that there's no such thing as business ethics, and capital is amoral. In case you're going to further ask in-kind whether this means I'm saying the concept of business and/or money itself should be banished, the answer is no.
  - lukifer 13y ago
    Who would you rather buy shoes from: someone who obsesses over making great shoes, or someone who obsesses over making money by any means possible, and has decided that shoes are the optimal means to that end? At best, pure business type are a necessary evil, doing the dirty work that enables people to make a living by offering genuine value. But at worst, they are soulless parasites leeching out every ounce of passion and creativity for a cold, hard buck. "People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it." http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspi...
  - loceng 13y ago
    Yoga at its epitome is a lifestyle, a way of life - a philosophy of how to live. Business politics and yoga a lot of the time don't mix - that's the simple answer. Lots of business-minded people run businesses ... I'd imagine most do or are in charge of them. There can be issues though when heart or compassion isn't included in it. Example: Do you make money by hurting people or allowing people to get hurt? Is that a good business to be in or a bad one? What kind of people do you think would make money in that type of business? People with heart and empathy or more on the business-minded-lacking-empathy side?
- mikeryan 13y ago
  I know Derik the founder of Yogaglo. He's both passionate about the practice and ideals behind Yoga and a savvy business person. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. Despite all this Yogaglo is a fantastic case of a highly successful, primarily bootstrapped business.
  - loceng 13y ago
    I don't know Derik, however I imagine he must have found value in yoga to start a business in it - to at least see the potential and value it has for others - and as a viable way to make money. Nothing wrong with that. Though patenting something is fear-driven (or it's for protective purposes, though they sent out cease & desist orders already AFAIK), or it's purposely repressive in forcing someone else to not be able to express themselves in a certain way. If it's fear-driven, I don't blame him - our capitalistic system is designed so that if you fail at earning enough money to pay yourself, then you can't survive - and that's a lot of pressure and reason for fear. If it's to purposely repress people from expressing themselves in a certain way - which I highly doubt it is - then I would have a problem with that.
varelse 13y ago
As someone who spent many years doing yoga to attempt to improve my 2 sigma godfawful flexibility (not very successfully alas), I saw all sorts of misbehavior going on. Some examples: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/bikram-yoga-lawsuit_n_3709518.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/bikram-yoga-lawsuit... http://www.gtweekly.com/index.php/santa-cruz-news/santa-cruz-local-news/1523-yogis-behaving-badly.html http://www.gtweekly.com/index.php/santa-cruz-news/santa-cruz... And this not the first time IP Law has come into play here: http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3200043 http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3200043

by avisk 13y ago

Jgrubb 13y ago

I think that is what has my righteous indignation stoked much higher than the average absurd patent trolling news. I just can't fathom how someone who is supposedly "business minded" in this field could think it was a good idea to patent this, much less to start sending C&Ds to non-profits.

loceng 13y ago

It just shows us that it's business-minded people in control, who are running, YogaGlo.

meddlepal 13y ago
I will bite, what's so bad about business-minded people running a business?
- rhizome 13y ago
  You're casting about in a generalization, but one problem is that there's no such thing as business ethics, and capital is amoral. In case you're going to further ask in-kind whether this means I'm saying the concept of business and/or money itself should be banished, the answer is no.
- lukifer 13y ago
  Who would you rather buy shoes from: someone who obsesses over making great shoes, or someone who obsesses over making money by any means possible, and has decided that shoes are the optimal means to that end? At best, pure business type are a necessary evil, doing the dirty work that enables people to make a living by offering genuine value. But at worst, they are soulless parasites leeching out every ounce of passion and creativity for a cold, hard buck. "People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it." http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspi...
- loceng 13y ago
  Yoga at its epitome is a lifestyle, a way of life - a philosophy of how to live. Business politics and yoga a lot of the time don't mix - that's the simple answer. Lots of business-minded people run businesses ... I'd imagine most do or are in charge of them. There can be issues though when heart or compassion isn't included in it. Example: Do you make money by hurting people or allowing people to get hurt? Is that a good business to be in or a bad one? What kind of people do you think would make money in that type of business? People with heart and empathy or more on the business-minded-lacking-empathy side?
mikeryan 13y ago
I know Derik the founder of Yogaglo. He's both passionate about the practice and ideals behind Yoga and a savvy business person. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. Despite all this Yogaglo is a fantastic case of a highly successful, primarily bootstrapped business.
- loceng 13y ago
  I don't know Derik, however I imagine he must have found value in yoga to start a business in it - to at least see the potential and value it has for others - and as a viable way to make money. Nothing wrong with that. Though patenting something is fear-driven (or it's for protective purposes, though they sent out cease & desist orders already AFAIK), or it's purposely repressive in forcing someone else to not be able to express themselves in a certain way. If it's fear-driven, I don't blame him - our capitalistic system is designed so that if you fail at earning enough money to pay yourself, then you can't survive - and that's a lot of pressure and reason for fear. If it's to purposely repress people from expressing themselves in a certain way - which I highly doubt it is - then I would have a problem with that.

varelse 13y ago

As someone who spent many years doing yoga to attempt to improve my 2 sigma godfawful flexibility (not very successfully alas), I saw all sorts of misbehavior going on. Some examples: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/bikram-yoga-lawsuit_n_3709518.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/bikram-yoga-lawsuit... http://www.gtweekly.com/index.php/santa-cruz-news/santa-cruz-local-news/1523-yogis-behaving-badly.html http://www.gtweekly.com/index.php/santa-cruz-news/santa-cruz... And this not the first time IP Law has come into play here: http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3200043 http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3200043