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Parents Revolt Over Fisher-Price Infant Seat With Face-Level iPad Mount

19 points by davidsmith8900 13y ago

orbitingpluto 13y ago
Literally, WALL-E.
eru 13y ago
This linked product (http://www.ctadigital.com/item.asp?item=3016 http://www.ctadigital.com/item.asp?item=3016) is even better.
- davidsmith8900 13y ago
  - Nice link. Thanks for it.
Super_luigi 13y ago
going to the x-mas list in 3... 2...
onedev 13y ago
Just don't buy it then?
- a3n 13y ago
  Fundamentally yes, but it's worth commenting on, as we all have an interest in discouraging the next generation coming up wit developmental problems. More fundamentally, people have the right to protest. If Amazon sold cigarettes specifically made for children, I wouldn't buy them and I would protest.
- pkulak 13y ago
  We're all in this together.
alrs 13y ago
http://blogs.artinfo.com/lacmonfire/files/2013/05/clockwork_brainwash.jpg http://blogs.artinfo.com/lacmonfire/files/2013/05/clockwork_... This is Kubrick.
vacri 13y ago
However, it’s important to note that the seat can be used normally without an iPad. I find it hard to believe any of the critics were concerned that it might not work without an ipad.
drill_sarge 13y ago
If it was for a normal toilet and a laptop I would buy
maaku 13y ago
As a parent, this is disgusting. I would like to hope that it fails because no one buys it, but sadly I do not think that will be the case.
- rurounijones 13y ago
  Did you read this : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6893190 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6893190 And did it affect your opinion?
  - maaku 13y ago
    No. I have two little ones at home (2yo and 6 weeks), and no steady employment. Of course I can't afford daycare. My wife and I have off-time measured in the minutes per 24-hour period. I seriously can't remember the last time I got a full nights sleep. But I am more resolved about this matter than before my wife and I had kids. Being a parent is an awesome responsibility. You more than anyone or anything else shape who you kid becomes, and how they develop is determined by what you allow to be brought into their lives. The damage done by passive screentime, especially at such a young age is immense. It alters the personality of your child. It kills creativity and playful inventiveness. Which, by the way, are the core elements to success no matter what you doing in life. These parents are - little by little - doing life-long damage to the psyche of their children for the transitory and selfish reward of a few minutes downtime. That is, as I said before, disgusting.
PhasmaFelis 13y ago
> CCFC director Susan Linn said “Babies thrive when they are talked to, played with and cuddled, not when they are alone with a screen.” Let me guess. Two-parent household with enough money for regular day care, right? I know a single mother who spends literally every single waking moment with her baby, not a moment to herself, and it's destroying her sanity. She needs electronic baby distracters just to get enough downtime to remain fit to care for her child. Fuck these sanctimonious pricks who think poor people don't count.
- ok_craig 13y ago
  As someone who really doesn't know, is it actually necessary to have an adult watching a baby every moment of its existence?
  - enqk 13y ago
    And does it have to be a single person, and its genitors?
    - jdbernard 13y ago
      Not every moment of it's existence, but a vast majority to be sure. Babies can't do anything for themselves. They are completely worthless and prone to self-injury and self-harm. It doesn't have to be a single person or it's progenitors, but it does need to be someone who genuinely cares for the baby. When I was younger I remember my mother and father would often watch babies for other young mothers who needed time to relax. This seems like a good model, but our culture's irrational distrust of men invalidates half the pool of helpers and our growing disconnection from neighbors and other people jeopardizes the rest.
      - teh_klev 13y ago
        I'm sure you meant "helpless" and not "worthless"?
        13y ago
wslh 13y ago
Just when I was trying to move the iPad outside of the family! Now, my 19 months toddler only wants to watch all different Gangnam Style videos in YouTube.
zaqokm 13y ago
I have a feeling many of the peopel who are complaining will end up sitting their child in front of the TV in years to come. A product like this may be useful as a entertainment device for the child and can be combined with parental involement.
mjfisher 13y ago
I can't be the only one who thinks tablets have the potential to be an extremely positive early-stage developmental and educational aid? Of course, abandoning your child in front of an iPad for hours on end is not good parenting - no one is suggesting it is. Plonking your little one in front of a TV for hours is just as bad for the same reason. There's no reason at all why focused play on a tablet now and again shouldn't take its place alongside books (those great ones with the thick chewable cardboard pages), dolls, chunky plastic diggers, balls and building blocks - and TV, now and again. Getting in and playing with computers fairly early did me a world of good, and allowed me to much more effectively develop my interests. I still have an enduring love of dinosaurs thanks to an old DOS program called Burt's Dinosaurs. I played on games that taught me basic arithmetic. I learned how all manner of things worked. It was great! And in a world where technology itself is getting to be so central to everyday life, it is much better to learn how to be familiar and comfortable with it than to run away and pretend that we can insulate our children from it forever. Tablets are interactive, media-rich, the children that play on them develop amazing coordination, and it's a format that can provide great material wrapped up in a way that makes learning fun for children. I can only guess that so many are uncomfortable with the idea of this product because it suggests prolonged unsupervised play, rather than problems with tablets themselves?
- sentenza 13y ago
  What's most troubling is that it will most likely used for passive consumption, not unsupervised play. My kid is quite sharp, but she couldn't use the computer mouse before 3 and touch screens before 2 years of age. Assuming that this is normal, what could children < 2 possibly do with it except passively consume?
diminoten 13y ago
Maybe mom's using it to monitor her baby during a nap through FaceTime!
- hiharryhere 13y ago
  Pretty expensive way to go about it
Vitaly 13y ago
WTF to revolt about? You don't like it - don't buy it. Someone else wants it - let them have it, its not your "right" to force everyone to your opinion.

Literally, WALL-E.

eru 13y ago

This linked product (http://www.ctadigital.com/item.asp?item=3016 http://www.ctadigital.com/item.asp?item=3016) is even better.

davidsmith8900 13y ago
- Nice link. Thanks for it.

Super_luigi 13y ago

going to the x-mas list in 3... 2...

onedev 13y ago

Just don't buy it then?

a3n 13y ago
Fundamentally yes, but it's worth commenting on, as we all have an interest in discouraging the next generation coming up wit developmental problems. More fundamentally, people have the right to protest. If Amazon sold cigarettes specifically made for children, I wouldn't buy them and I would protest.
pkulak 13y ago
We're all in this together.

alrs 13y ago

http://blogs.artinfo.com/lacmonfire/files/2013/05/clockwork_brainwash.jpg http://blogs.artinfo.com/lacmonfire/files/2013/05/clockwork_... This is Kubrick.

vacri 13y ago

However, it’s important to note that the seat can be used normally without an iPad. I find it hard to believe any of the critics were concerned that it might not work without an ipad.

drill_sarge 13y ago

If it was for a normal toilet and a laptop I would buy

maaku 13y ago

As a parent, this is disgusting. I would like to hope that it fails because no one buys it, but sadly I do not think that will be the case.

rurounijones 13y ago
Did you read this : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6893190 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6893190 And did it affect your opinion?
- maaku 13y ago
  No. I have two little ones at home (2yo and 6 weeks), and no steady employment. Of course I can't afford daycare. My wife and I have off-time measured in the minutes per 24-hour period. I seriously can't remember the last time I got a full nights sleep. But I am more resolved about this matter than before my wife and I had kids. Being a parent is an awesome responsibility. You more than anyone or anything else shape who you kid becomes, and how they develop is determined by what you allow to be brought into their lives. The damage done by passive screentime, especially at such a young age is immense. It alters the personality of your child. It kills creativity and playful inventiveness. Which, by the way, are the core elements to success no matter what you doing in life. These parents are - little by little - doing life-long damage to the psyche of their children for the transitory and selfish reward of a few minutes downtime. That is, as I said before, disgusting.

PhasmaFelis 13y ago

> CCFC director Susan Linn said “Babies thrive when they are talked to, played with and cuddled, not when they are alone with a screen.” Let me guess. Two-parent household with enough money for regular day care, right? I know a single mother who spends literally every single waking moment with her baby, not a moment to herself, and it's destroying her sanity. She needs electronic baby distracters just to get enough downtime to remain fit to care for her child. Fuck these sanctimonious pricks who think poor people don't count.

ok_craig 13y ago
As someone who really doesn't know, is it actually necessary to have an adult watching a baby every moment of its existence?
- enqk 13y ago
  And does it have to be a single person, and its genitors?
  - jdbernard 13y ago
    Not every moment of it's existence, but a vast majority to be sure. Babies can't do anything for themselves. They are completely worthless and prone to self-injury and self-harm. It doesn't have to be a single person or it's progenitors, but it does need to be someone who genuinely cares for the baby. When I was younger I remember my mother and father would often watch babies for other young mothers who needed time to relax. This seems like a good model, but our culture's irrational distrust of men invalidates half the pool of helpers and our growing disconnection from neighbors and other people jeopardizes the rest.
    - teh_klev 13y ago
      I'm sure you meant "helpless" and not "worthless"?
      - 13y ago

wslh 13y ago

Just when I was trying to move the iPad outside of the family! Now, my 19 months toddler only wants to watch all different Gangnam Style videos in YouTube.

zaqokm 13y ago

I have a feeling many of the peopel who are complaining will end up sitting their child in front of the TV in years to come. A product like this may be useful as a entertainment device for the child and can be combined with parental involement.

mjfisher 13y ago

I can't be the only one who thinks tablets have the potential to be an extremely positive early-stage developmental and educational aid? Of course, abandoning your child in front of an iPad for hours on end is not good parenting - no one is suggesting it is. Plonking your little one in front of a TV for hours is just as bad for the same reason. There's no reason at all why focused play on a tablet now and again shouldn't take its place alongside books (those great ones with the thick chewable cardboard pages), dolls, chunky plastic diggers, balls and building blocks - and TV, now and again. Getting in and playing with computers fairly early did me a world of good, and allowed me to much more effectively develop my interests. I still have an enduring love of dinosaurs thanks to an old DOS program called Burt's Dinosaurs. I played on games that taught me basic arithmetic. I learned how all manner of things worked. It was great! And in a world where technology itself is getting to be so central to everyday life, it is much better to learn how to be familiar and comfortable with it than to run away and pretend that we can insulate our children from it forever. Tablets are interactive, media-rich, the children that play on them develop amazing coordination, and it's a format that can provide great material wrapped up in a way that makes learning fun for children. I can only guess that so many are uncomfortable with the idea of this product because it suggests prolonged unsupervised play, rather than problems with tablets themselves?

sentenza 13y ago
What's most troubling is that it will most likely used for passive consumption, not unsupervised play. My kid is quite sharp, but she couldn't use the computer mouse before 3 and touch screens before 2 years of age. Assuming that this is normal, what could children < 2 possibly do with it except passively consume?

diminoten 13y ago

Maybe mom's using it to monitor her baby during a nap through FaceTime!

hiharryhere 13y ago
Pretty expensive way to go about it

Vitaly 13y ago

WTF to revolt about? You don't like it - don't buy it. Someone else wants it - let them have it, its not your "right" to force everyone to your opinion.