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It's also really easy to not upload a photo to a website. Blaming the victim is not the answer.

by imgabe 13y ago

Mikeb85 13y ago
It's not blaming the victim. It's simply stating that in complicated relationships where feelings are likely to get hurt and people do enact various forms of vengeance (women included), it's best to have a little vigilance. Expecting that no former lover will ever act out against you is unrealistic. The 'sexting' thing has gotten out of hand, to the point where kids are being put into jail for having photos of underage kids of the same age, celeb photos are leaked all the time, etc... It's better to avoid taking the photos than to try avoid the consequences later.
- jacalata 13y ago
  It's also good to start amending laws so that obvious bad actions are punished and simple ones like 'two 14 year olds with pictures of each other' are not.
- penguat 13y ago
  It's entirely possible to take a photo, delete it, and for it to still exist in a retrievable form. And if I want to take pictures of myself naked for my own information and entertainment on my own devices, that should be my prerogative. Someone having their email account compromised is not acting foolishly - they are not acting. The hacker is. They're a victim, and by that point have very little they can do about it. Acting foolishly is not the same as inviting crime or violent acts; the victims should not take any blame for that - although they may seek advice to prevent or mitigate similar attacks in the future.
RokStdy 13y ago
Why is suggestion caution the same thing as 'blaming the victim'? This is ridiculous. A very good solution to the "revenge porn" problem is for people to not cavalierly take naked pictures of themselves. So, I take a naked picture, share it, sharee shares again, <step>, <step>, revenge porn upload. I am appropriate in my action, and then the propriety drops as the chain goes on. But why is it unfair to say, don't take the pic in the first place and you can avoid what (may) come next.
- tptacek 13y ago
  The problem is that it has nothing to do with this story. Congratulations, we've identified one step (out of many possible) that people can take to avoid revenge porn exposure. Now what? The answer isn't for the victims to be more vigilant; the answer is the public policy step that eliminates revenge porn sites.
- deleted 13y ago
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It's also really easy to not upload a photo to a website. Blaming the victim is not the answer.

by imgabe 13y ago

It's also really easy to not upload a photo to a website. Blaming the victim is not the answer.

It's not blaming the victim. It's simply stating that in complicated relationships where feelings are likely to get hurt and people do enact various forms of vengeance (women included), it's best to have a little vigilance. Expecting that no former lover will ever act out against you is unrealistic. The 'sexting' thing has gotten out of hand, to the point where kids are being put into jail for having photos of underage kids of the same age, celeb photos are leaked all the time, etc... It's better to avoid taking the photos than to try avoid the consequences later.

jacalata 13y ago
It's also good to start amending laws so that obvious bad actions are punished and simple ones like 'two 14 year olds with pictures of each other' are not.
penguat 13y ago
It's entirely possible to take a photo, delete it, and for it to still exist in a retrievable form. And if I want to take pictures of myself naked for my own information and entertainment on my own devices, that should be my prerogative. Someone having their email account compromised is not acting foolishly - they are not acting. The hacker is. They're a victim, and by that point have very little they can do about it. Acting foolishly is not the same as inviting crime or violent acts; the victims should not take any blame for that - although they may seek advice to prevent or mitigate similar attacks in the future.

RokStdy 13y ago

Why is suggestion caution the same thing as 'blaming the victim'? This is ridiculous. A very good solution to the "revenge porn" problem is for people to not cavalierly take naked pictures of themselves. So, I take a naked picture, share it, sharee shares again, <step>, <step>, revenge porn upload. I am appropriate in my action, and then the propriety drops as the chain goes on. But why is it unfair to say, don't take the pic in the first place and you can avoid what (may) come next.

tptacek 13y ago
The problem is that it has nothing to do with this story. Congratulations, we've identified one step (out of many possible) that people can take to avoid revenge porn exposure. Now what? The answer isn't for the victims to be more vigilant; the answer is the public policy step that eliminates revenge porn sites.
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