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Is it just a coincidence that I never hear again of a company that declared something like this?

by dscrd 13y ago

randomdata 13y ago
W.L. Gore and Associates, the company behind the Gore-Tex brand, uses a similar management structure and has since the '50s.
- ryancarson 13y ago
  and they have 9,000+ employees!
mattlutze 13y ago
Other than Valve, of course. HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3877674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3877674 Their new employee manual: http://newcdn.flamehaus.com/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf http://newcdn.flamehaus.com/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf
- enjo 13y ago
  SEMCO, to me, is the best example of this. While they haven't fired all of their managers, they are a very large company doing self-management in a whole bunch of different verticals. Books by the SEMCO founder, Ricardo Semler: Maverick - http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Success-Behind-Unusual-Workplace/dp/0446670553/ref=sr_1_1 http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Success-Behind-Unusual-Workpl... The Seven Day Weekend - http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Day-Weekend-Changing-Work-Works-ebook/dp/B000PDYVXE/ref=sr_1_2 http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Day-Weekend-Changing-Work-Works-...
Edmond 13y ago
No it is not...Ideas like this generally don't scale, it may work while they are still small. Flat organizational structures are nothing new, many big companies practice this to a certain extent. For instance many IT consulting companies have armies of workers without the typical boss, but you still have executives/managers to actually run the companies. Some companies will promote flat organizational structures but really often it is just a euphemism for lack of career advancement opportunities. So instead of employees aspiring to move up the ladder they are encouraged to move laterally (try different roles).
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vellum 13y ago
Github is at 230 people now. They use open allocation for devs and designers. Looking at the new hires section[1] on their blog, they also hire support personnel for teams. "technical writer, focusing on documentation for Github Enterprise." 1 - https://github.com/blog/category/hire https://github.com/blog/category/hire

Is it just a coincidence that I never hear again of a company that declared something like this?

by dscrd 13y ago

Is it just a coincidence that I never hear again of a company that declared something like this?

W.L. Gore and Associates, the company behind the Gore-Tex brand, uses a similar management structure and has since the '50s.

ryancarson 13y ago
and they have 9,000+ employees!

mattlutze 13y ago

Other than Valve, of course. HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3877674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3877674 Their new employee manual: http://newcdn.flamehaus.com/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf http://newcdn.flamehaus.com/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf

enjo 13y ago
SEMCO, to me, is the best example of this. While they haven't fired all of their managers, they are a very large company doing self-management in a whole bunch of different verticals. Books by the SEMCO founder, Ricardo Semler: Maverick - http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Success-Behind-Unusual-Workplace/dp/0446670553/ref=sr_1_1 http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Success-Behind-Unusual-Workpl... The Seven Day Weekend - http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Day-Weekend-Changing-Work-Works-ebook/dp/B000PDYVXE/ref=sr_1_2 http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Day-Weekend-Changing-Work-Works-...

Edmond 13y ago

No it is not...Ideas like this generally don't scale, it may work while they are still small. Flat organizational structures are nothing new, many big companies practice this to a certain extent. For instance many IT consulting companies have armies of workers without the typical boss, but you still have executives/managers to actually run the companies. Some companies will promote flat organizational structures but really often it is just a euphemism for lack of career advancement opportunities. So instead of employees aspiring to move up the ladder they are encouraged to move laterally (try different roles).

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vellum 13y ago

Github is at 230 people now. They use open allocation for devs and designers. Looking at the new hires section[1] on their blog, they also hire support personnel for teams. "technical writer, focusing on documentation for Github Enterprise." 1 - https://github.com/blog/category/hire https://github.com/blog/category/hire