Yeah, I've tried to do all those things. And no, I haven't noticed that I can't go to town and by fresh fruit and veg from the market or supermarket for less th

Yeah, I've tried to do all those things. And no, I haven't noticed that I can't go to town and by fresh fruit and veg from the market or supermarket for less than a 4-pack. Finally, a lot of poor people have 2 jobs or try to get as much overtime as they can to supplement their income, so 'We all work the same hours.' is a bit of a fallacy. Yeah, whatever. Plenty of my friends seem to manage just fine. I managed just fine back in the day.