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Canada?

by mkaziz 13y ago

Canada?

mhurron 13y ago
Satan's Little Helper? The country that seems to simply enacts laws and legislation that just mirror the US so they look like good little friends? The country that assists the NSA as needed? That Canada?
- mkaziz 13y ago
  There's less of a precedent of them abusing their own citizens so (which is my anecdotal opinion, admittedly). Add that to healthcare costs that won't cripple you forever, and it's a solid choice for an English-speaking country.
  - mhurron 13y ago
    > less of a precedent of them abusing their own citizens http://pencanada.ca/blog/on-backdoor-information-access/ http://pencanada.ca/blog/on-backdoor-information-access/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement They let the Americans do that for them.
  - MrZongle2 13y ago
    On the handful of times I've been in Canada, I've enjoyed the experience. The people were friendly and the scenery breathtaking. There's a lot to like about America's neighbor to the north. But some of their speech-restricting activities are disturbing: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/free-speech-eh-why-is-canada-prosecuting-mark-steyn-1.720445 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/free-speech-eh-why-is-canada-pr...
- afterburner 13y ago
  The general attitude, and the implications of everyone having health care, are far better. The police in general have a far friendlier disposition. It's not all about authority and the "listen to me I'm the coach/sergeant" sports-talk/military-talk mentality. There is also no real race issue the way African Americans experience in the US (a systematic, paranoid, aggressive marginalization of a large section of society). And there certainly isn't anything like the militarization of the police like there is in the US, which is the focus of this article.
  - r-s 13y ago
    We have major race issues with Natives, nobody wants to talk about it though.
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    - afterburner 13y ago
      Please see my reply to mhurron above (I can't copy paste it because HN deletes it as spam)
  - mhurron 13y ago
    I don't know where in Canada you've lived, but there is plenty of that in Toronto, and Calgary, especially dealing with the natives. I'll bet Montreal and Vancouver aren't must different. There was no culture shock moving from Canada to the US.
    - afterburner 13y ago
      The situation with natives is a far cry from the systematic and pervasive problems with racism against African Americans in the US. Natives are such a small percentage of the population in Canada, and certainly in urban centres, that no especially abusive laws have been constantly set up over the years in order to keep them at what is considered the appropriate station in society. Think of the hundred years of Jim Crow laws in the US, and the even current attempt to disenfranchise them during every election through voter registration laws and voter list deletions. It is simply not comparable.
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Canada?

by mkaziz 13y ago

Canada?

Satan's Little Helper? The country that seems to simply enacts laws and legislation that just mirror the US so they look like good little friends? The country that assists the NSA as needed? That Canada?

mkaziz 13y ago
There's less of a precedent of them abusing their own citizens so (which is my anecdotal opinion, admittedly). Add that to healthcare costs that won't cripple you forever, and it's a solid choice for an English-speaking country.
- mhurron 13y ago
  > less of a precedent of them abusing their own citizens http://pencanada.ca/blog/on-backdoor-information-access/ http://pencanada.ca/blog/on-backdoor-information-access/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement They let the Americans do that for them.
- MrZongle2 13y ago
  On the handful of times I've been in Canada, I've enjoyed the experience. The people were friendly and the scenery breathtaking. There's a lot to like about America's neighbor to the north. But some of their speech-restricting activities are disturbing: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/free-speech-eh-why-is-canada-prosecuting-mark-steyn-1.720445 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/free-speech-eh-why-is-canada-pr...
afterburner 13y ago
The general attitude, and the implications of everyone having health care, are far better. The police in general have a far friendlier disposition. It's not all about authority and the "listen to me I'm the coach/sergeant" sports-talk/military-talk mentality. There is also no real race issue the way African Americans experience in the US (a systematic, paranoid, aggressive marginalization of a large section of society). And there certainly isn't anything like the militarization of the police like there is in the US, which is the focus of this article.
- r-s 13y ago
  We have major race issues with Natives, nobody wants to talk about it though.
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  - afterburner 13y ago
    Please see my reply to mhurron above (I can't copy paste it because HN deletes it as spam)
- mhurron 13y ago
  I don't know where in Canada you've lived, but there is plenty of that in Toronto, and Calgary, especially dealing with the natives. I'll bet Montreal and Vancouver aren't must different. There was no culture shock moving from Canada to the US.
  - afterburner 13y ago
    The situation with natives is a far cry from the systematic and pervasive problems with racism against African Americans in the US. Natives are such a small percentage of the population in Canada, and certainly in urban centres, that no especially abusive laws have been constantly set up over the years in order to keep them at what is considered the appropriate station in society. Think of the hundred years of Jim Crow laws in the US, and the even current attempt to disenfranchise them during every election through voter registration laws and voter list deletions. It is simply not comparable.

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