I think I would have struggled to find any motivation to keep going when I was starting out if I was just building command line scripts. Frameworks can hide the

I think I would have struggled to find any motivation to keep going when I was starting out if I was just building command line scripts. Frameworks can hide the confusing stuff and let you build functional things quickly, which is often great for motivation. I do mostly agree with you though. The more directions I approach software development from (different languages, frameworks, platforms), the more understanding I have of the different layers. If you approach a project knowing that you could write the whole thing from scratch, but choose not to, when limitations inevitably bubble up in the framework you're using it's a lot easier to work around them than if you're just copying and pasting stuff from tutorials without even understanding what the framework is trying to do. Generally, though, programming skills are developed through practice, and practice requires motivation. It's hard to maintain motivation when you're constantly fighting the kinds of errors that frameworks completely abstract.