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Google also give significantly more (+$2000) to female winners in Google Cloud Developer Challange 2013. https://www.google.com/events/gcdc2013/about.html https
by wiradikusuma 13y ago
Google also give significantly more (+$2000) to female winners in Google Cloud Developer Challange 2013. https://www.google.com/events/gcdc2013/about.html https://www.google.com/events/gcdc2013/about.html
- knackernews 13y agoThat actually seems rather unfair. Suppose a team consisted of 3 women and one man - that would have put them in an awkward situation.
- janjongboom 13y agoI'm very surprised about this. If Google would say that teams that only consist of men, or white people would get $2K extra everyone would explode.
- psbp 13y agoMaybe because that's not a very good solution for an industry-wide discrimination problem.
- mcv 13y ago> If Google would say that teams that only consist of men, or white people would get $2K extra everyone would explode. Surely you can understand why? The industry is already dominated by white men. They (we, in fact) don't need extra support to enter and get accepted by the industry. We don't suffer lots of subtle forms of harassment and discrimination, simply for being different from the norm. I don't think money by itself is the solution, but in order to make the industry more accepting of women, it helps if people get used to women in the industry, which means there need to be more women in the industry, which means some additional encouragement is probably necessary. Addressing the sexism in the industry in the absense of women doesn't seem to work very well. We need more women in order to become more accessible to women. That said, I do think it's odd to do this through larger prizes for women in a contest. Encouragement programs and networking events seem like a better way to do this. Then again, in sports, it's generally male competitions who tend to have far more prize money.
- Al-Khwarizmi 13y agoYeah. I'm sure women will "get accepted in the industry" much more if every man who looks at them is thinking "she's being given $2K extra for winning the same prize as me" or "I wonder if she's working here for her merits or because she took advantage of one of those positive discrimination programs". Brilliant idea.
- enneff 13y agoI'm a man and I would judge a woman just as I judge a man: by their actions.
- belorn 13y agoWhile a noble view, its is obviously not shared by Google. They would rather judge a woman on the basis that she is a woman.
- ceol 13y agoThey aren't just letting any and all women in while telling the droves of men to shove it. They're saying that if you are a woman who already qualifies for Hacker School who cannot pay for expenses while attending, then they will give you some money to help out. They aren't some bouncer at a club pulling the velvet rope back for everyone who checks the "I am a woman" box on the application.
- knowitall 13y agoI must admit things like that make me angry because of the implied "women are victims" message.
- sanxiyn 13y agoIsn't this simply to increase female participation? What does it have to do with "women are victims" message? Nightclubs are known to offer free entry to females. Isn't that to increase female participation? I don't think clubs are victimizing anyone.
- knowitall 13y agoMaybe you are right in this case. However, nightclubs need women because a major reason to go there is to hook up. What is the reason to bribe women into showing up at hacking competitions? Actual cynical me thinks "more sexy workplace" is part of the unspoken motivation for the "more women into programming" movement. But I don't think that is the official message they want to send out...
- jrs99 13y agowomen ARE victims. They are victims of society, and their parents who grew up with rigid rules of what a woman should be and raised their daughters with those rules in mind.