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What? This is like saying that peaceniks are, in reality, the most violent of all. That after leaving Love-All-Equal Unitarian Church, the church-goers spend ti

by leot 13y ago

What? This is like saying that peaceniks are, in reality, the most violent of all. That after leaving Love-All-Equal Unitarian Church, the church-goers spend time studying the strategies of Hermann Goering. That's utter hogwash. For some reason, neither Scandinavia, nor Canada, nor Switzerland appear on the list as perpetrators. And when Italy does, it's when the country is run by a decidedly illiberal corporatist/fascist. Indeed, for some reason, liberalism -- that is, the philosophy based on the ideas of freedom and universal human equality under the law -- is seen as antithetical to violent mendacity.

bigd 13y ago
Italy doesn't need false flags anymore. We believe whatever the TV says since 30+ years.
coldtea 13y ago
>What? This is like saying that peaceniks are, in reality, the most violent of all. That after leaving Love-All-Equal Unitarian Church, the church-goers spend time studying the strategies of Hermann Goering. That's utter hogwash. Study the history of colonialism. BILLIONS of people enslaved, suffered, killed, mamed, had their resources and country stolen and such. All by "civilized western societies" such as England, France, Belgium, Holland, et co. And then post-colonialism, where US plays a major role. >For some reason, neither Scandinavia, nor Canada, nor Switzerland appear on the list as perpetrators. Yes, and the reason is they didn't do much if anything bad in that regard. Then again, I didn't say that ALL western democracies did such things. I also didn't say that this behavior is inherent to being a democracy. I only said that the worst offenders in such matters have historically been (and continue to be) western democracies. Here's just an example, the tip of the iceberg, of what they still continue to do: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/inside-frances-secret-war-396062.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/inside-france...

by leot 13y ago

bigd 13y ago

Italy doesn't need false flags anymore. We believe whatever the TV says since 30+ years.

coldtea 13y ago

>What? This is like saying that peaceniks are, in reality, the most violent of all. That after leaving Love-All-Equal Unitarian Church, the church-goers spend time studying the strategies of Hermann Goering. That's utter hogwash. Study the history of colonialism. BILLIONS of people enslaved, suffered, killed, mamed, had their resources and country stolen and such. All by "civilized western societies" such as England, France, Belgium, Holland, et co. And then post-colonialism, where US plays a major role. >For some reason, neither Scandinavia, nor Canada, nor Switzerland appear on the list as perpetrators. Yes, and the reason is they didn't do much if anything bad in that regard. Then again, I didn't say that ALL western democracies did such things. I also didn't say that this behavior is inherent to being a democracy. I only said that the worst offenders in such matters have historically been (and continue to be) western democracies. Here's just an example, the tip of the iceberg, of what they still continue to do: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/inside-frances-secret-war-396062.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/inside-france...