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I'm not sure about the $1billion, but the $271 fine is what we as regular citizens would get if we tried to pick people up from the bus stop. The complaint is t

by tedivm 13y ago

I'm not sure about the $1billion, but the $271 fine is what we as regular citizens would get if we tried to pick people up from the bus stop. The complaint is that the two tiered system- one where normal citizens have to follow the rules, while corporations can do whatever they please- and the fine is simply one example of that.

WalterBright 13y ago
> The bus operators — private companies like Google, Facebook, Apple and Genentech — would pay for permits to use the Muni stops Looks like that issue is being taken care of.
- tedivm 13y ago
  Yeah, it's nice to know that if I break the rules I can get the city to retroactively change them for me, assuming I have enough money.
  - chaz 13y ago
    Curious: if you disagree with a permitting process for the private buses, what would you prefer the outcome to be?
    - ryguytilidie 13y ago
      That seems like a mighty straw man. He never said he disagreed with the permit process. He simply disagrees with the idea that these companies have been able to park illegally with no consequence for years and instead of just writing them tickets, as the city would do for a normal person, they decide to give them permits to prevent them from having to break the law hundreds of times a day.
  - UrlichtZwei 13y ago
    Wait, wait, isn't that how politics in general work?
  - simoncion 13y ago
    I expect there to be a fee associated with these permits. What if the permits are issued with a retroactive start date (and proportionately large initial issuance fee)? Perhaps one that extends back to when each company started stopping in city bus stops? How would you feel about that?
- steveklabnik 13y ago
  Would be, are not currently.
djcapelis 13y ago
> the $271 fine is what we as regular citizens would get if we tried to pick people up from the bus stop Kind of. It's not very well enforced by the police for regular citizens either. Lax enforcement all around really...

by tedivm 13y ago

WalterBright 13y ago

> The bus operators — private companies like Google, Facebook, Apple and Genentech — would pay for permits to use the Muni stops Looks like that issue is being taken care of.

tedivm 13y ago
Yeah, it's nice to know that if I break the rules I can get the city to retroactively change them for me, assuming I have enough money.
- chaz 13y ago
  Curious: if you disagree with a permitting process for the private buses, what would you prefer the outcome to be?
  - ryguytilidie 13y ago
    That seems like a mighty straw man. He never said he disagreed with the permit process. He simply disagrees with the idea that these companies have been able to park illegally with no consequence for years and instead of just writing them tickets, as the city would do for a normal person, they decide to give them permits to prevent them from having to break the law hundreds of times a day.
- UrlichtZwei 13y ago
  Wait, wait, isn't that how politics in general work?
- simoncion 13y ago
  I expect there to be a fee associated with these permits. What if the permits are issued with a retroactive start date (and proportionately large initial issuance fee)? Perhaps one that extends back to when each company started stopping in city bus stops? How would you feel about that?
steveklabnik 13y ago
Would be, are not currently.

djcapelis 13y ago

> the $271 fine is what we as regular citizens would get if we tried to pick people up from the bus stop Kind of. It's not very well enforced by the police for regular citizens either. Lax enforcement all around really...