> "...absolute hell for anyone without an advanced mathematics background" I'm a good programmer in a well-paid job. I've never studied mathematics formally. I

> "...absolute hell for anyone without an advanced mathematics background" I'm a good programmer in a well-paid job. I've never studied mathematics formally. I've picked up a little knowledge of it from books, but I've almost never needed it for any programming I've done. Your statement seems crazy to me. Of course, if you're reading fucking Knuth then yeah, there's some mathematics involved, but you seem to be arguing that you can't write an app without it, which is simply false. I've written apps. No maths beyond basic arithmetic.