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Sorry, I missed the part in Mandela's biography where he avoided jail time by skipping the country, and then proceeded to go dark in order to continue avoiding

Sorry, I missed the part in Mandela's biography where he avoided jail time by skipping the country, and then proceeded to go dark in order to continue avoiding jail time. Snowden is better compared to spies than to revolutionaries. At best, he's a Loki.

genwin 13y ago
Fighters of injustice needn't submit to jail in my book. No drop in hero status for Snowden.
- spacebe4time 13y ago
  "An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law" -- Martin Luther King Jr.
- bct 13y ago
  spacebe4time: You have been hellbanned for several months.
  - evacuationdrill 13y ago
    I've seen this before, on the same user. How, if he is hellbanned, do you see that he's trying to post? Is it unlocked on seasoned accounts similar to downmods?
    - nilkn 13y ago
      I've seen this before too and have wondered the same thing.
      - krapp 13y ago
        turn 'showdead' on in your profile.
EthanHeilman 13y ago
You should probably read his biography then because you miss the part that starts: >"Traveling there in secret, Mandela ..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Umkhonto_we_Sizwe_and_African_tour:_1961.E2.80.931962 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Umkhonto_we_Sizw... He was arrested after sneaking back into S. Africa, after sneaking out of S. Africa, when someone tipped off the government about his location (he went dark to avoid capture, he was in hiding when they arrested him). He attempted to evade the S. African government and clearly would have avoided arrest by fleeing the country if possible. Note that one of the things he was charged with was "leaving the country without permission". And just for the record Loki was captured. The imprisonment of Loki is an extremely important aspect of the mythology of Loki which should not be ignored in attempting to find modern analogues. >The narrative continues that Loki was bound with the entrails of his son Nari, and his son Narfi changed into a wolf. Skaði fastened a venomous snake over Loki's face, and from it poison dripped. Sigyn, Loki's wife, sat with him holding a basin beneath the dripping venom, yet when the basin became full, she carried the poison away; and during this time the poison dripped on to Loki, causing him to writhe with such violence that all of the earth shook from the force, resulting in what are now known as earthquakes. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki

genwin 13y ago

Fighters of injustice needn't submit to jail in my book. No drop in hero status for Snowden.

spacebe4time 13y ago
"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law" -- Martin Luther King Jr.
bct 13y ago
spacebe4time: You have been hellbanned for several months.
- evacuationdrill 13y ago
  I've seen this before, on the same user. How, if he is hellbanned, do you see that he's trying to post? Is it unlocked on seasoned accounts similar to downmods?
  - nilkn 13y ago
    I've seen this before too and have wondered the same thing.
    - krapp 13y ago
      turn 'showdead' on in your profile.

EthanHeilman 13y ago

You should probably read his biography then because you miss the part that starts: >"Traveling there in secret, Mandela ..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Umkhonto_we_Sizwe_and_African_tour:_1961.E2.80.931962 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Umkhonto_we_Sizw... He was arrested after sneaking back into S. Africa, after sneaking out of S. Africa, when someone tipped off the government about his location (he went dark to avoid capture, he was in hiding when they arrested him). He attempted to evade the S. African government and clearly would have avoided arrest by fleeing the country if possible. Note that one of the things he was charged with was "leaving the country without permission". And just for the record Loki was captured. The imprisonment of Loki is an extremely important aspect of the mythology of Loki which should not be ignored in attempting to find modern analogues. >The narrative continues that Loki was bound with the entrails of his son Nari, and his son Narfi changed into a wolf. Skaði fastened a venomous snake over Loki's face, and from it poison dripped. Sigyn, Loki's wife, sat with him holding a basin beneath the dripping venom, yet when the basin became full, she carried the poison away; and during this time the poison dripped on to Loki, causing him to writhe with such violence that all of the earth shook from the force, resulting in what are now known as earthquakes. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki