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Disproof: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_nob_pri_lau_percap-nobel-prize-laureates-per-capita http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_nob_pri_lau_percap-no

Disproof: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_nob_pri_lau_percap-nobel-prize-laureates-per-capita http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_nob_pri_lau_percap-nob... So, so tired of the BS. The reason you think immigration is so wonderful is because you have been brainwashed since childhood. Period. But really, look at this: Smart immigration policies will do more for American innovation and productivity than better math and science education, more spending on basic research and additional venture capital combined. Boil this off...what is he saying: "You should not improve the people...you should replace the people."

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ardit33 17y ago
Disproof to your above claim: The US soccer team is mostly out of first-gen recent immigrants, or people that were given a passport just to play here. I think a fair-er comparison is of Noble prize laureates by ethnicity or country where they were born. You probably will see a lot more even distribution. Americans are not any smarter then, lets say Europeans. It is just they have more means. You will probably see a great correlation to economic output and noble price laureates because: 1. Richer countries attract smart people. You are smart, you probably are smart enough to be given great jobs/research positions and the best places to live in this earth, which happen countries that are rich already. 2. To do nobel price research, you probably need a lot of financial/instutinational backing, which you are most likely to find in rich countries..
- thras 17y ago
  "I think a fair-er comparison is of Noble prize laureates by ethnicity or country where they were born. You probably will see a lot more even distribution." Ha. You seriously believe that, don't you? I'm impressed almost. In the U.S., 13% of the population is black. 2% is Jewish. Guess who get Nobel prizes and who don't. Evolution is a nasty, nasty theory that happens to be true. The magical equality fairy theory is beautiful, full of peace and love, and is wrong and stupid.
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noonespecial 17y ago
"You should not improve the people...you should replace the people." We're not looking to "replace" people. We're looking to add them. We have the envious position of being able to use our already considerable wealth to attract more of the worlds very best and brightest. This will allow us to build even more wealth and attract even more of the best... etc. We've got the benefit of a virtuous cycle that would, if unchecked, allow the US to virtually monopolize all talent in the world. Severely limiting the use of this advantage may be the best thing the Americans can do to help the poorer emerging counties reach for prosperity of their own. How's that for unintended consequences?

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ardit33 17y ago

Disproof to your above claim: The US soccer team is mostly out of first-gen recent immigrants, or people that were given a passport just to play here. I think a fair-er comparison is of Noble prize laureates by ethnicity or country where they were born. You probably will see a lot more even distribution. Americans are not any smarter then, lets say Europeans. It is just they have more means. You will probably see a great correlation to economic output and noble price laureates because: 1. Richer countries attract smart people. You are smart, you probably are smart enough to be given great jobs/research positions and the best places to live in this earth, which happen countries that are rich already. 2. To do nobel price research, you probably need a lot of financial/instutinational backing, which you are most likely to find in rich countries..

thras 17y ago
"I think a fair-er comparison is of Noble prize laureates by ethnicity or country where they were born. You probably will see a lot more even distribution." Ha. You seriously believe that, don't you? I'm impressed almost. In the U.S., 13% of the population is black. 2% is Jewish. Guess who get Nobel prizes and who don't. Evolution is a nasty, nasty theory that happens to be true. The magical equality fairy theory is beautiful, full of peace and love, and is wrong and stupid.

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noonespecial 17y ago

"You should not improve the people...you should replace the people." We're not looking to "replace" people. We're looking to add them. We have the envious position of being able to use our already considerable wealth to attract more of the worlds very best and brightest. This will allow us to build even more wealth and attract even more of the best... etc. We've got the benefit of a virtuous cycle that would, if unchecked, allow the US to virtually monopolize all talent in the world. Severely limiting the use of this advantage may be the best thing the Americans can do to help the poorer emerging counties reach for prosperity of their own. How's that for unintended consequences?