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>He argues that expanding government crowds out non-governmental social activity, giving the example of hurricane response My house was ruined by Hurricane San

>He argues that expanding government crowds out non-governmental social activity, giving the example of hurricane response My house was ruined by Hurricane Sandy, I am grateful that our Republican governor went against the grain and backed a relief fund program. Fuck you and your advocacy of disaster capitalism. Towns were wiped off the map, if you think the solution is a bunch of vultures looking to profit from a tragedy and not government intervention, you've been blinded by your ideology. Here's a hint: despite locals' efforts to help one another out, all of our shit was wrecked, but we still did it. Everyone's everything was gone, we can only help ourselves so much given the fact most people didn't have a home, electricity, or running water. We must be the domesticated humans you're going on about. What does that make you? Who benefits from such an disgusting ideology? Only people who are infinitely more wealthy than you'll ever be.

crassus 13y ago
First off, I can tell you've never read Nock and have no intention to do so. I'm disappointed by this level of discourse. Secondly, why do you assume that the only two institutions in the world are the government and the market? That itself is emblematic of the erosion of the social fabric in America.
- troglodie 13y ago
  Having not read Nock doesn't preclude me from taking your argument as you've written it. Nice try at appealing to questionable authority, though. I'm disappointed at this level of discourse. Secondly, why do you assume that I assume that? It's quite emblematic of the erosion of logic in libertarian "rationality". If you read my post, you can see I touched on outreach by the community, which isn't enough after devastating disaster. We had volunteers come from all over the country, that helped with the most superficial matters: ie removing debris, evangelizing. That was temporary immediate relief and they were not seen again after a month. It wasn't enough to fix the heavy structural damage. It wasn't enough to find shelter for people without homes. But go on, tell me how we're domesticated humans for exhausting all of our options and possibly maybe getting funds to rebuild. Social fabric in America has been eroded away by poverty, lack of opportunity, alienation, and the good old divide and conquer method. Please expound on how you believe government intervention is the cause of our ills.

crassus 13y ago

First off, I can tell you've never read Nock and have no intention to do so. I'm disappointed by this level of discourse. Secondly, why do you assume that the only two institutions in the world are the government and the market? That itself is emblematic of the erosion of the social fabric in America.

troglodie 13y ago
Having not read Nock doesn't preclude me from taking your argument as you've written it. Nice try at appealing to questionable authority, though. I'm disappointed at this level of discourse. Secondly, why do you assume that I assume that? It's quite emblematic of the erosion of logic in libertarian "rationality". If you read my post, you can see I touched on outreach by the community, which isn't enough after devastating disaster. We had volunteers come from all over the country, that helped with the most superficial matters: ie removing debris, evangelizing. That was temporary immediate relief and they were not seen again after a month. It wasn't enough to fix the heavy structural damage. It wasn't enough to find shelter for people without homes. But go on, tell me how we're domesticated humans for exhausting all of our options and possibly maybe getting funds to rebuild. Social fabric in America has been eroded away by poverty, lack of opportunity, alienation, and the good old divide and conquer method. Please expound on how you believe government intervention is the cause of our ills.