>Add on to that the reality of scarcity of both needs and desires Yes! And when people have more than 2.1 children, thus increasing global population, things

>Add on to that the reality of scarcity of both needs and desires Yes! And when people have more than 2.1 children, thus increasing global population, things get even scarcer. So no, your 19 children are clearly not 'all in it together' with my 2, to whom I would like to feed grass fed beef as God - not Monsanto - intended*. But lets all overlook population growth. [1] Actually I would prefer fish, but lets be realistic - the oceans are now a mercury filled shithole.