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#2: I happen to believe that people should be entitled to education, healthcare, safety and respect. #3: There are certainly bad jobs. Jobs where the employer

#2: I happen to believe that people should be entitled to education, healthcare, safety and respect. #3: There are certainly bad jobs. Jobs where the employer does not pay, abuses their workforce etc. #5: Debt you cannot afford? Sure. But sometimes debt is useful. A mortgage or a business loan for example. #6: Safety is everyone's responsibility. It's all well and good that you behave well but if Bill decides he doesn't need to follow safety precautions it can just as easily injure, maim or kill others as well as himself. #7: Don't I regularly see "Work smarter, not harder" plastered over HN? If the only way you can stand out is by working more, you're either at the top of your game or you can do whatever you are doing better. #8: "The machines here are not maintained correctly, but I guess complaining is bad so I'll either put up with it or leave." #10 (ish): Car accident breaks both your legs, you can no longer perform manual labour. Tornado destroys your business, insurance shrugs and pays you a pittance. Someone else's bad decisions cause an equipment failure that costs you an arm. #11: These two sentences are not equivalent. I'm okay saying I agree with the latter, but not the former. I'm not okay with the fact the world is not fair and feel it's a noble cause to try and correct this. #12: This just reeks of the blame the poor mindset I see in a lot of US conservatives (and in our own UK conservatives to be fair).

krupan 13y ago
I read Mike's list and it filled me with ferver and the desire to stand up and make my life better. I read you list and it made me want to sit on my butt and mope.
- lotsofpulp 13y ago
  In my experience, leaving emotion out of the decision making process usually yields more optimal decisions.
- avrilkiki 13y ago
  You're been raised on Horatio Alger myths. You've read Paul Graham's essays that exhort you to throw away your youth to work for him, in exchange for a lottery ticket. Your mind is a collection of lies, and facing this can be depressing. Or you can try to bolster the lies, you can pretend really hard that the lies are real, you can be inspired to place yourself in an economically vulnerable situation where your boss will likely economically abuse you. You can be filled with fervor and stand up and make your life better... by sacrificing your body to enrich lazy bosses who don't give a shit about you, your health, your life, your family, your future. You can stand up and buckle down to 60 hour work weeks until your body has been used up, at which point you can look forward to a life on the couch taking painkillers. Look buddy--just because it makes you temporarily inspired doesn't mean it's good. What's the reasonable response to current economic conditions? Economic conditions where Wall Street and the 0.1% get greedily rich by just siphoning off the wealth of the country--not to mention crashing the economy. A country where the rich get rich not by "hard work" but by writing inspiring speeches to get suckers to do hard work. This is just the world, bro. And the appropriate response to such a world is feelings of depression. And then after feelings of depression, feelings of fervor... not to be an economically abused slave, but to stand up with fervor and a desire to make ALL of our lives better, and to OVERTHROW the capitalist system that places us all in subservience. The fervor that this should drive us to is a fervor to guillotine the 1% and take their money. As soon as the 99% realizes it can vote itself more money, all our problems will be solved. But the 99% right now seems only to be inspired by calls to slavery, not calls to freedom. The 1% have no compunction about voting themselves more money, or tricking you to vote them more money. Why are the 99% such fucking idiots that calls to slavery inspire them but calls to revolution don't? Basically, fuck you for being an easily manipulated tool. You are what is wrong with the world.

krupan 13y ago

I read Mike's list and it filled me with ferver and the desire to stand up and make my life better. I read you list and it made me want to sit on my butt and mope.

lotsofpulp 13y ago
In my experience, leaving emotion out of the decision making process usually yields more optimal decisions.
avrilkiki 13y ago
You're been raised on Horatio Alger myths. You've read Paul Graham's essays that exhort you to throw away your youth to work for him, in exchange for a lottery ticket. Your mind is a collection of lies, and facing this can be depressing. Or you can try to bolster the lies, you can pretend really hard that the lies are real, you can be inspired to place yourself in an economically vulnerable situation where your boss will likely economically abuse you. You can be filled with fervor and stand up and make your life better... by sacrificing your body to enrich lazy bosses who don't give a shit about you, your health, your life, your family, your future. You can stand up and buckle down to 60 hour work weeks until your body has been used up, at which point you can look forward to a life on the couch taking painkillers. Look buddy--just because it makes you temporarily inspired doesn't mean it's good. What's the reasonable response to current economic conditions? Economic conditions where Wall Street and the 0.1% get greedily rich by just siphoning off the wealth of the country--not to mention crashing the economy. A country where the rich get rich not by "hard work" but by writing inspiring speeches to get suckers to do hard work. This is just the world, bro. And the appropriate response to such a world is feelings of depression. And then after feelings of depression, feelings of fervor... not to be an economically abused slave, but to stand up with fervor and a desire to make ALL of our lives better, and to OVERTHROW the capitalist system that places us all in subservience. The fervor that this should drive us to is a fervor to guillotine the 1% and take their money. As soon as the 99% realizes it can vote itself more money, all our problems will be solved. But the 99% right now seems only to be inspired by calls to slavery, not calls to freedom. The 1% have no compunction about voting themselves more money, or tricking you to vote them more money. Why are the 99% such fucking idiots that calls to slavery inspire them but calls to revolution don't? Basically, fuck you for being an easily manipulated tool. You are what is wrong with the world.