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FBI has been using malware for ages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29 https://en.

FBI has been using malware for ages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_%28software%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_%28software%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_and_Internet_Protocol_Address_Verifier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_and_Internet_Protocol... Other governments as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher Entire (legitimate) businesses are dedicated to selling malware for use by governments and law enforcement agencies.

bediger4000 13y ago
Carnivore (a.k.a. DCS3000 and DCS6000) isn't exactly "malware" - it's the system that resides in phone company/ISP machine rooms to do CALEA "lawful intercepts" of email headers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet There have been rumors to the effect that the DCS systems run on Solaris, and have been hacked and cracked so that other than FBI can monitor things using it (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a2003dcsnethack#a2003dcsnethack http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a2003dcs...). Also, calling a business that sells malware to Law Enforcement is something of a stretch. If you mean "legitmate" as "lawful", then you're strictly correct. If you want "legitimate" to also encompass "ethical", or "upstanding" or something of that sort, then I don't see it.
- vezzy-fnord 13y ago
  Are you sure Carnivore and DCSNet are presently related? I had thought DCSNet and ISP-bound traffic monitors like Carnivore were separate. That's interesting. Though I had always been stuck with the impression that FBI technology primarily made use of Windows as an OS and Perl as a scripting language. I meant legitimate as in lawful.

bediger4000 13y ago

Carnivore (a.k.a. DCS3000 and DCS6000) isn't exactly "malware" - it's the system that resides in phone company/ISP machine rooms to do CALEA "lawful intercepts" of email headers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet There have been rumors to the effect that the DCS systems run on Solaris, and have been hacked and cracked so that other than FBI can monitor things using it (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a2003dcsnethack#a2003dcsnethack http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a2003dcs...). Also, calling a business that sells malware to Law Enforcement is something of a stretch. If you mean "legitmate" as "lawful", then you're strictly correct. If you want "legitimate" to also encompass "ethical", or "upstanding" or something of that sort, then I don't see it.

vezzy-fnord 13y ago
Are you sure Carnivore and DCSNet are presently related? I had thought DCSNet and ISP-bound traffic monitors like Carnivore were separate. That's interesting. Though I had always been stuck with the impression that FBI technology primarily made use of Windows as an OS and Perl as a scripting language. I meant legitimate as in lawful.