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Nice! Me and my friend made this app back in a few weeks ago, and here is the link.http://pricemaps.betterdoctor.com/#/ http://pricemaps.betterdoctor.com/#/ 1.

by hotloo 13y ago

Nice! Me and my friend made this app back in a few weeks ago, and here is the link.http://pricemaps.betterdoctor.com/#/ http://pricemaps.betterdoctor.com/#/ 1. We used the 'Average Payment' for the actual number shown on the site. 2. Even though it's irrelevant, but it actually goes back to you by your co-pay and other expenses to you. Not 100% sure though. The point in our app is that, we want to compare the price vs quality in the US top hospitals. They actually vary a lot. 3,4 I agree. Co-pay is what you pay mostly. 5. We cleaned up the procedure names manually, and matched the procedure related specialties to the hospital specialty ranking made by US News, and it gives much better perspective to the users. Nice to see people doing more health related stuff out there!

jmadsen 13y ago
"My friends and I" not "me and my friends" Yes, call me a Grammar Nazi Troll, but I see a shocking amount of this most fundamental error all over forums where otherwise intelligent, educated people discuss things. You sound ignorant when you make the same mistakes as my 12-yo daughter. I can tell you make it because you are typing as you speak, which means you are in public, in meetings, and some day in presentations using bad English. People will judge you by how you speak. I'm not being a troll, I'm helping you have a better future.
- Twisol 13y ago
  The rule is to use the same pronoun you'd use as if you didn't have two parties involved, right? "My friends and I did X" is right because "I did X" is, and "Me and my friends did X" is wrong because "Me did X" is obviously wrong.
  - hotloo 13y ago
    Sorry guys, not a native here. I am sorry if I upset you with my poor English. I learnt my lesson :)
    - jmadsen 13y ago
      It's not something we are "upset" about, and considering the level of English you used throughout the rest of your post and response, I'm not sure "not a native" is a valid excuse. I suspect if you aren't a native, the reason you say "my friends and me" is because it's a bad habit you've picked up from natives, like typing "gonna". I think anyone who can make a sentence such as, "We cleaned up the procedure names manually, and matched the procedure related specialties to the hospital specialty ranking made by US News, and it gives much better perspective to the users" is far beyond making English 101 mistakes confusing objects and subjects of sentences. Actually, in 15 years of on and off English teaching, I have run into very few non-natives who have that issue, since they had to actually study it. I find you to be somewhat unique. In any case, there are plenty of natives who consistently say write and say this, so hopefully a few of them will take it to heart.
      - hotloo 13y ago
        Thanks :) I fix it then :)
        pseingatl 13y ago
        It is utterly unfair to complain about errors made by non-native speakers who are making a good faith effort to communicate in English.
        jmadsen 13y ago
        Why not? It's not an attack on him personally, but ...why not? Read the rest of his posts. He clearly has a very high level of English, and can state his ideas and opinions clearly. Yet he fell into the same shit-English trap that his friends are all in. My complaint isn't that someone made a mistake. My complaint is that someone who knows better couldn't give a fuck to say it correctly. This is about standards, not grammar mistakes. There's no difference between someone who speaks English at his level saying "my friend and me", and an experienced programmer not error handling his code because he's in a rush. I don't point this problem out where ever I see it because I'm an anal Grammar Nazi; I point it out because it is slipshod, lazy, I-don't-give-a-shit attitude. It is becoming the norm among people who grew up on chat and it is garbage. I stand by my statement; ESL students learn this in their second week of English class, and hotloo says it because he is copying his native friends on chat who speak like crap, and now he is picking up all their bad habits as well. So hotloo, do yourself a favor and take this to heart. Some day you'll be in a suit and tie, in front of people who care about this sort of thing, and it will win land you a contract or a good job or something important you want.
jeanlucneptune 13y ago
I like the betterdoctor price maps! Too bad you didn't have a chance to enter our competition, because you might have been a winner. By point: 1.) Good choice 2.) You need to consider co-pays as well as allowable charges, deductibles, co-insurance (if applicable), and benefit maximums. 2b.) The quality data out there sucks (hard to measure quality in HC) and is hard to find. 3.) Cool 4.) Ibid 5.) Clever HC now is like the internet in the early 90s. Huge opportunities that will hopefully attract talented developers, technologists, and entrepreneurs.
- hotloo 13y ago
  Thanks! Yes, we would love to take our app to the next stage by providing more comparison functionalities. One of the reason why we skipped quite a bit of the metric is that we don't want to make the users to be too much confused with choices. This is one of the problems with the current health care system. There are too many choices, and there is no simple way to do any sort of quick decision like renting care, etc.
novalis78 13y ago
totally agree! my friend an me started in August on a similar mission http://www.pricepain.com http://www.pricepain.com - even tried YCombinator this winter but did not make it. If you checkout our /why section we collected a lot of recent articles and links on the subject
- hotloo 13y ago
  Nice! Looks pretty cool. How did you get these data? Is there any public source for this? We are using US News Ranking & CMS charge data. Best, developers behind the BetterDoctor PriceMaps

by hotloo 13y ago

jmadsen 13y ago

"My friends and I" not "me and my friends" Yes, call me a Grammar Nazi Troll, but I see a shocking amount of this most fundamental error all over forums where otherwise intelligent, educated people discuss things. You sound ignorant when you make the same mistakes as my 12-yo daughter. I can tell you make it because you are typing as you speak, which means you are in public, in meetings, and some day in presentations using bad English. People will judge you by how you speak. I'm not being a troll, I'm helping you have a better future.

Twisol 13y ago
The rule is to use the same pronoun you'd use as if you didn't have two parties involved, right? "My friends and I did X" is right because "I did X" is, and "Me and my friends did X" is wrong because "Me did X" is obviously wrong.
- hotloo 13y ago
  Sorry guys, not a native here. I am sorry if I upset you with my poor English. I learnt my lesson :)
  - jmadsen 13y ago
    It's not something we are "upset" about, and considering the level of English you used throughout the rest of your post and response, I'm not sure "not a native" is a valid excuse. I suspect if you aren't a native, the reason you say "my friends and me" is because it's a bad habit you've picked up from natives, like typing "gonna". I think anyone who can make a sentence such as, "We cleaned up the procedure names manually, and matched the procedure related specialties to the hospital specialty ranking made by US News, and it gives much better perspective to the users" is far beyond making English 101 mistakes confusing objects and subjects of sentences. Actually, in 15 years of on and off English teaching, I have run into very few non-natives who have that issue, since they had to actually study it. I find you to be somewhat unique. In any case, there are plenty of natives who consistently say write and say this, so hopefully a few of them will take it to heart.
    - hotloo 13y ago
      Thanks :) I fix it then :)
      - pseingatl 13y ago
        It is utterly unfair to complain about errors made by non-native speakers who are making a good faith effort to communicate in English.
        jmadsen 13y ago
        Why not? It's not an attack on him personally, but ...why not? Read the rest of his posts. He clearly has a very high level of English, and can state his ideas and opinions clearly. Yet he fell into the same shit-English trap that his friends are all in. My complaint isn't that someone made a mistake. My complaint is that someone who knows better couldn't give a fuck to say it correctly. This is about standards, not grammar mistakes. There's no difference between someone who speaks English at his level saying "my friend and me", and an experienced programmer not error handling his code because he's in a rush. I don't point this problem out where ever I see it because I'm an anal Grammar Nazi; I point it out because it is slipshod, lazy, I-don't-give-a-shit attitude. It is becoming the norm among people who grew up on chat and it is garbage. I stand by my statement; ESL students learn this in their second week of English class, and hotloo says it because he is copying his native friends on chat who speak like crap, and now he is picking up all their bad habits as well. So hotloo, do yourself a favor and take this to heart. Some day you'll be in a suit and tie, in front of people who care about this sort of thing, and it will win land you a contract or a good job or something important you want.

jeanlucneptune 13y ago

I like the betterdoctor price maps! Too bad you didn't have a chance to enter our competition, because you might have been a winner. By point: 1.) Good choice 2.) You need to consider co-pays as well as allowable charges, deductibles, co-insurance (if applicable), and benefit maximums. 2b.) The quality data out there sucks (hard to measure quality in HC) and is hard to find. 3.) Cool 4.) Ibid 5.) Clever HC now is like the internet in the early 90s. Huge opportunities that will hopefully attract talented developers, technologists, and entrepreneurs.

hotloo 13y ago
Thanks! Yes, we would love to take our app to the next stage by providing more comparison functionalities. One of the reason why we skipped quite a bit of the metric is that we don't want to make the users to be too much confused with choices. This is one of the problems with the current health care system. There are too many choices, and there is no simple way to do any sort of quick decision like renting care, etc.

novalis78 13y ago

totally agree! my friend an me started in August on a similar mission http://www.pricepain.com http://www.pricepain.com - even tried YCombinator this winter but did not make it. If you checkout our /why section we collected a lot of recent articles and links on the subject

hotloo 13y ago
Nice! Looks pretty cool. How did you get these data? Is there any public source for this? We are using US News Ranking & CMS charge data. Best, developers behind the BetterDoctor PriceMaps