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Meh, still funny, and the jokes are often more clever than your typical network fare. EDIT: I love that I get downvoted for saying that I like a show. You guy

by EpicEng 13y ago

Meh, still funny, and the jokes are often more clever than your typical network fare. EDIT: I love that I get downvoted for saying that I like a show. You guys must be a blast at parties.

antiterra 13y ago
Yeah. Really clever jokes like saying "Nintendo 64" then pausing for laughter.
- EpicEng 13y ago
  So... you pick out one joke you don't like and presume that no one else should like the show? Right... so you don't like it. Who cares? I certainly don't. I like it. There, I cancelled out your dislike.
  - antiterra 13y ago
    No, I just don't think making references for their own sake is particularly clever. But if you like that kind of joke and you like the show, that's great. It's not something I would judge you as a person for. Heck, I'd be happy to suggest Mr. Penumbra's 24 Hour Bookstore, if you haven't read it already.
    - EpicEng 13y ago
      I honestly can't recall the joke you referred to. I do remember other jokes which I found funny. I apologize for that.
doorhammer 13y ago
I don't watch the show, personally, but it's irritating that everyone has to come down on things like this. People spend their time doing all kinds of crazy things. If it's fun and you enjoy it, then I think that's great. There are worse ways to spend your time. Apparently, that's not good enough, though. Everyone has to critique how other people enjoy themselves. I've read books on algorithm analysis and I just excitedly purchased a book on discrete mathematics through haskell. Know what else I've read? The entire Sookie Stackhouse series. So friggin what? My life was so much easier to live when I decided that it was okay to peacefully allow other people enjoy things that I don't. (oh yeah, I don't think the parent post was saying bad things; it just seemed like a decent place to say it :) )
- Brakenshire 13y ago
  It's public culture, and popular enough to be held representative of a large subgroup of people. There's no reason why people shouldn't give their honest opinion of it.
  - doorhammer 13y ago
    I'm by no means arguing against free speech, and I don't have a problem with people disliking something or even voicing their dislike. I just get miffed by the condescending tone a lot of folks take.
  - EpicEng 13y ago
    It's a network sitcom... seriously, a network sitcom... I know I don't care for the opinions of people who base their beliefs on pop culture. You should give it a try. And the parent wasn't trying to deny anyone their right to free speech, yeesh. He is just annoyed by those who feel the need to tell others what they should and should not like.
    - dinkumthinkum 13y ago
      Honestly, I'm surprised many here have even seen the show. A lot of the echo chamber prattle around here seems to be like that Onion article about "local man won't stop saying he doesn't watch TV" or something like that.
- mhurron 13y ago
  > My life was so much easier to live when I decided that it was okay to peacefully allow other people enjoy things that I don't. Yes it is, it will also be easier when you don't complain about people complaining about things they don't like.
  - doorhammer 13y ago
    Right, that's a zinger response, but the main thing I'm driving at isn't that I want my life to be as easy as it possibly can be. I'm driving at the value of not being judgemental and condescending, especially if the topic is really arbitrary. I think the case could be made that in some circumstances judgement and criticism are perfectly valid and useful, but I don't see vitriolic condemnations of someone's sitcom preference as ever being particularly useful to anyone. Moreover, I think that it's actively socially counter-productive.
TheZenPsycho 13y ago
I remember when hacker news had a culture that was embarrassed about making contentless unproductive comments like this. The article is about Peter Higgs and the current academic environment. The Hacker News thread contains a prolonged debate about the merits of some TV show. and then this comment.
- EpicEng 13y ago
  I guess you failed to read the comment I replied to then? Comments sometimes spin off into subjects which are not relevant to the original topic. Welcome to the internet, lighten up.
  - TheZenPsycho 13y ago
    I did read it. My point is, you contributed nothing. And you are still contributing nothing. And I shouldn't have to point this out. You should be self conscious enough to know that your comment contained nothing.
    - EpicEng 13y ago
      Seems like your ok with "contributing nothing" yourself though eh? I can keep this up all day. I suppose I am also confused as to what your definition of meaningful content is. Is this meaningful? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6865612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6865612 How about this? I guess comments meant purely to attack another member is meaningful content: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6842750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6842750 Seems like you have a double standard here. You've posted more than one comment which adds nothing to the value (per your secret definition) of a given thread. You should at least be consistent if you're going to call other people out.
      - Double_Cast 13y ago
        > Seems like you have a double standard here. (...) You should at least be consistent if you're going to call other people out. Ad hominem tu quoque [1]. Suppose I'm 70 years old with emphysema due to smoking cigarettes decades ago. If I advise you "smoking is harmful, don't do it", does my hypocrisy invalidate the assertion that smoking is harmful? Would the fact that I, as an addict, still smoke a pack a day magically make smoking any less harmful? > Welcome to the internet, lighten up. I have to agree with TheZenPsycho. Yes, this is the internet. But no, this is not /b. This is a domain of the internet called Hacker News, which (at least in theory [2]) has certain standards. pg has even expressed worry about the dilution of HN [3]. > I can keep this up all day. I find your antagonism especially disappointing. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Tu_quoque http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Tu_quoque [2] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [3] http://paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://paulgraham.com/hackernews.html

by EpicEng 13y ago

Meh, still funny, and the jokes are often more clever than your typical network fare. EDIT: I love that I get downvoted for saying that I like a show. You guys must be a blast at parties.

antiterra 13y ago

Yeah. Really clever jokes like saying "Nintendo 64" then pausing for laughter.

EpicEng 13y ago
So... you pick out one joke you don't like and presume that no one else should like the show? Right... so you don't like it. Who cares? I certainly don't. I like it. There, I cancelled out your dislike.
- antiterra 13y ago
  No, I just don't think making references for their own sake is particularly clever. But if you like that kind of joke and you like the show, that's great. It's not something I would judge you as a person for. Heck, I'd be happy to suggest Mr. Penumbra's 24 Hour Bookstore, if you haven't read it already.
  - EpicEng 13y ago
    I honestly can't recall the joke you referred to. I do remember other jokes which I found funny. I apologize for that.

doorhammer 13y ago

I don't watch the show, personally, but it's irritating that everyone has to come down on things like this. People spend their time doing all kinds of crazy things. If it's fun and you enjoy it, then I think that's great. There are worse ways to spend your time. Apparently, that's not good enough, though. Everyone has to critique how other people enjoy themselves. I've read books on algorithm analysis and I just excitedly purchased a book on discrete mathematics through haskell. Know what else I've read? The entire Sookie Stackhouse series. So friggin what? My life was so much easier to live when I decided that it was okay to peacefully allow other people enjoy things that I don't. (oh yeah, I don't think the parent post was saying bad things; it just seemed like a decent place to say it :) )

Brakenshire 13y ago
It's public culture, and popular enough to be held representative of a large subgroup of people. There's no reason why people shouldn't give their honest opinion of it.
- doorhammer 13y ago
  I'm by no means arguing against free speech, and I don't have a problem with people disliking something or even voicing their dislike. I just get miffed by the condescending tone a lot of folks take.
- EpicEng 13y ago
  It's a network sitcom... seriously, a network sitcom... I know I don't care for the opinions of people who base their beliefs on pop culture. You should give it a try. And the parent wasn't trying to deny anyone their right to free speech, yeesh. He is just annoyed by those who feel the need to tell others what they should and should not like.
  - dinkumthinkum 13y ago
    Honestly, I'm surprised many here have even seen the show. A lot of the echo chamber prattle around here seems to be like that Onion article about "local man won't stop saying he doesn't watch TV" or something like that.
mhurron 13y ago
> My life was so much easier to live when I decided that it was okay to peacefully allow other people enjoy things that I don't. Yes it is, it will also be easier when you don't complain about people complaining about things they don't like.
- doorhammer 13y ago
  Right, that's a zinger response, but the main thing I'm driving at isn't that I want my life to be as easy as it possibly can be. I'm driving at the value of not being judgemental and condescending, especially if the topic is really arbitrary. I think the case could be made that in some circumstances judgement and criticism are perfectly valid and useful, but I don't see vitriolic condemnations of someone's sitcom preference as ever being particularly useful to anyone. Moreover, I think that it's actively socially counter-productive.

TheZenPsycho 13y ago

I remember when hacker news had a culture that was embarrassed about making contentless unproductive comments like this. The article is about Peter Higgs and the current academic environment. The Hacker News thread contains a prolonged debate about the merits of some TV show. and then this comment.

EpicEng 13y ago
I guess you failed to read the comment I replied to then? Comments sometimes spin off into subjects which are not relevant to the original topic. Welcome to the internet, lighten up.
- TheZenPsycho 13y ago
  I did read it. My point is, you contributed nothing. And you are still contributing nothing. And I shouldn't have to point this out. You should be self conscious enough to know that your comment contained nothing.
  - EpicEng 13y ago
    Seems like your ok with "contributing nothing" yourself though eh? I can keep this up all day. I suppose I am also confused as to what your definition of meaningful content is. Is this meaningful? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6865612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6865612 How about this? I guess comments meant purely to attack another member is meaningful content: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6842750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6842750 Seems like you have a double standard here. You've posted more than one comment which adds nothing to the value (per your secret definition) of a given thread. You should at least be consistent if you're going to call other people out.
    - Double_Cast 13y ago
      > Seems like you have a double standard here. (...) You should at least be consistent if you're going to call other people out. Ad hominem tu quoque [1]. Suppose I'm 70 years old with emphysema due to smoking cigarettes decades ago. If I advise you "smoking is harmful, don't do it", does my hypocrisy invalidate the assertion that smoking is harmful? Would the fact that I, as an addict, still smoke a pack a day magically make smoking any less harmful? > Welcome to the internet, lighten up. I have to agree with TheZenPsycho. Yes, this is the internet. But no, this is not /b. This is a domain of the internet called Hacker News, which (at least in theory [2]) has certain standards. pg has even expressed worry about the dilution of HN [3]. > I can keep this up all day. I find your antagonism especially disappointing. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Tu_quoque http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Tu_quoque [2] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [3] http://paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://paulgraham.com/hackernews.html