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Hearing suits (usually over 50) talk about technology and the Internet gets painful. They're obsessed with the word "Cyber." "We have a war on Cyber!" "We ne

by seiji 13y ago

Hearing suits (usually over 50) talk about technology and the Internet gets painful. They're obsessed with the word "Cyber." "We have a war on Cyber!" "We need to hire more people to make Cyber secure!"

dsl 13y ago
You can always pick out the guys who have done real work in the DC area, because they don't even flinch when you say cyber. Valley geeks freak out like you just questioned their startups valuation.
- seiji 13y ago
  It's like walking up and saying "Could you send me an electronic mail message to my apple internet phone?" It labels them as "outsider" with poser knowledge, except they wield power and define internal politics (and, as we've seen leaked this year, make endless powerpoint presentations to other departments).
tptacek 13y ago
Nice casual ageism.
- seiji 13y ago
  Okay, that's the one thing all you old people[1] jumped on as the Offense Token of the post. But, really, it's old guys in suits in the government/military who are obsessed with labeling things "Cyber." I was thinking of this guy specifically since we have video evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MX488s19yE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MX488s19yE (He clearly doesn't know exactly what he's talking about, so he uses "Cyber" every chance he can.) [1]: The scale of ages are: 0-16: Youth 17-24: Middle Age 25-89: Old 90+: Good for you, hope you're not in too much pain. If you haven't made your millions in Middle Age, there's no hope and you should be subservient to the closest 22 year old who has cashed out $10 million in his last equity round. [yes, I'm aware of who I'm replying to. I'm entitled to ramble.]
  - mdisraeli 13y ago
    ' [just] the government/military who are obsessed with labeling things "Cyber." ' By extension, this means anyone who works with them, which means in turn any FTSE/NASDAQ 500 organisation and their partners/suppliers. So pretty much any medium to large enterprise (enterprise for short). If you're a start-up and want access to the big revenue generating clients, the enterprise is were it's at. Which means making them feel safe and secure and using the easy terminology they understand. Cyber.
wglb 13y ago
Dude, I have long-running deep technological disputes that are older than you are.
mdisraeli 13y ago
I used to think that, but then I realised that within enterprise, "cyber-" comes with 20% extra salary for the same role. Downside is having to be able to translate for suits, upside is /you get to translate for the suits and do it right/ ;)
timsally 13y ago
Language changes: https://twitter.com/dinodaizovi/status/405148448107659264 https://twitter.com/dinodaizovi/status/405148448107659264. I took a bit of time to read some of your more recent comments and I'm going to level with you-- I cringed pretty hard. Labeling people of 25 years as "old"? Yikes. I'm not sure if you mean to come off this way or not, but some friendly advice: your attitudes surely will limit the people who are willing to work with you to accomplish your goals. Might be worth some reflection.

by seiji 13y ago

dsl 13y ago

You can always pick out the guys who have done real work in the DC area, because they don't even flinch when you say cyber. Valley geeks freak out like you just questioned their startups valuation.

seiji 13y ago
It's like walking up and saying "Could you send me an electronic mail message to my apple internet phone?" It labels them as "outsider" with poser knowledge, except they wield power and define internal politics (and, as we've seen leaked this year, make endless powerpoint presentations to other departments).

tptacek 13y ago

Nice casual ageism.

seiji 13y ago
Okay, that's the one thing all you old people[1] jumped on as the Offense Token of the post. But, really, it's old guys in suits in the government/military who are obsessed with labeling things "Cyber." I was thinking of this guy specifically since we have video evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MX488s19yE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MX488s19yE (He clearly doesn't know exactly what he's talking about, so he uses "Cyber" every chance he can.) [1]: The scale of ages are: 0-16: Youth 17-24: Middle Age 25-89: Old 90+: Good for you, hope you're not in too much pain. If you haven't made your millions in Middle Age, there's no hope and you should be subservient to the closest 22 year old who has cashed out $10 million in his last equity round. [yes, I'm aware of who I'm replying to. I'm entitled to ramble.]
- mdisraeli 13y ago
  ' [just] the government/military who are obsessed with labeling things "Cyber." ' By extension, this means anyone who works with them, which means in turn any FTSE/NASDAQ 500 organisation and their partners/suppliers. So pretty much any medium to large enterprise (enterprise for short). If you're a start-up and want access to the big revenue generating clients, the enterprise is were it's at. Which means making them feel safe and secure and using the easy terminology they understand. Cyber.

wglb 13y ago

Dude, I have long-running deep technological disputes that are older than you are.

mdisraeli 13y ago

I used to think that, but then I realised that within enterprise, "cyber-" comes with 20% extra salary for the same role. Downside is having to be able to translate for suits, upside is /you get to translate for the suits and do it right/ ;)

timsally 13y ago

Language changes: https://twitter.com/dinodaizovi/status/405148448107659264 https://twitter.com/dinodaizovi/status/405148448107659264. I took a bit of time to read some of your more recent comments and I'm going to level with you-- I cringed pretty hard. Labeling people of 25 years as "old"? Yikes. I'm not sure if you mean to come off this way or not, but some friendly advice: your attitudes surely will limit the people who are willing to work with you to accomplish your goals. Might be worth some reflection.