>Well you can't change reality. At the very bottom of economics is actual real resources, and if you don't create enough value or save enough value and there th

>Well you can't change reality. At the very bottom of economics is actual real resources, and if you don't create enough value or save enough value and there there isn't enough other people to feed from then you must downwardly adjust your standard of living. Remember Freedom 55? I actually know people that worked for only 30 years at a government job and are being paid 80% of their best 4 years (adjusted for inflation of course) for the rest of their life. This is unsustainable. And? I've had jobs where I got paid $200/hr. I mean, that's not a "sustainable" rate- I'm just not bringing that much value. But the boss agreed to the rate; I still expect them to pay up for the hours I work, and I think that expectation is legitimate.