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Except people were doing that long before the "cloud" marketing nonsense started,
by asdasf 13y ago
Except people were doing that long before the "cloud" marketing nonsense started,
- sp332 13y agoWell they needed something to counteract the dusty image of the term "mainframe".
- dpark 13y agoYou just don't like the word "cloud" at all, and that's fine, but that is a different complaint from the original, which was basically that the term is being misused when combined with the term "private". If we are going to use the term "cloud" and assign it a meaning, we can certainly use it to refer to private clouds. If EC2 is a cloud for me, is it not also a cloud when Amazon builds services on it?
- michaelt 13y agoIf we're going to assign a meaning to the term 'cloud', shouldn't we assign it to something we don't already have a word for, so it actually describes something? If I start two VMs on my desktop and we call that a 'cloud' then the word 'cloud' isn't terribly useful in describing anything.
- arethuza 13y agoWorth noting that "cloud" was also used to describe private MPLS networks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiprotocol_Label_Switching http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiprotocol_Label_Switching
- dpark 13y agoI don't think the accepted definition of "cloud" is just "group of VMs". Your two VMs does not constitute a cloud. You can set up ten thousand VMs on a thousand servers and not have anything that would reasonably be considered a cloud if you did it manually. "Cloud" generally implies simplicity and automation. You could build a cloud with physical machines instead of VMs so long as you have automatic ways to allocate and manage the machines' lifecycles.
- asdasf 13y agoI have no problem with the word cloud. I have a problem with it being used to mean "anything I call cloud". If we are going to use the term and assign it a meaning, then lets assign it a meaning instead of using it for everything from "webmail" to "virtual machines" to "paying someone else to do something for me".
- dspillett 13y agoPeople were making out of band HTTP requests long before the irritating term AJAX was coined too. The name being made up after the method started being used does not mean the method can't be called the name if the properties fit (likewise as much as the marketers think otherwise, making up a new name doesn't make a thing technically revolutionary!)