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Leopard release: October 26th!

12 points by nickb 19y ago

Tichy 19y ago
Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon release on the 18th, that is the date I look forward to: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/04/ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-release-dates.html http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/04/ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibb...
ralphb 19y ago
Two notes of interest from the 300 new features list: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html "Ruby on Rails: Work in a developer's dreamland. Leopard is the perfect platform for Ruby on Rails development, with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built in." Yeah, ok. But then there's this: "Cocoa Bridges: Use Ruby and Python as first-class languages for building Cocoa applications, thanks to Objective-C bridges as well as full Xcode and Interface Builder support." Now that is pretty friggin cool, and there might be a significant competitive edge there for the Ruby lovers/Objective-C haters. I worked a bit with RubyCocoa (the open source project that is the basis for Apple's implementation) two summers ago, and it didn't quite seem ready for prime time then. But with Apple throwing its weight behind it, I'm suddenly pretty exited about writing Cocoa applications. Edit: spelling.
- jamesbritt 19y ago
  > with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built in. This is nice and all, but how hard is running "gem install" ?
  - alaskamiller 19y ago
    Rails was included with Tiger, but you had to do some funky things to update it and use it properly. This is just their way of saying you no longer have to do that.
  - veritas 19y ago
    Or downloading Locomotive....
- inklesspen 19y ago
  You ought to check out Nu: http://programming.nu/about http://programming.nu/about Inspired by Ruby and Lisp (uses sexps for notation), written in Objective-C so it has great interaction with Cocoa apps and frameworks. Check out an example: http://blog.neontology.com/posts/2007/08/19/a-glimpse-of-nu http://blog.neontology.com/posts/2007/08/19/a-glimpse-of-nu
  - akkartik 19y ago
    Nu is what I call a language remix. Combine the syntax from one language with the runtime of another. It's relatively easy to do; we should be doing more of these. Backward compatibility be damned. --- The ruby/smalltalk connection is a bit of a red herring; the 'inspiration' from them seems to be just inserting symbols in the argument list. Perfectly doable in lisp, just not very conventional. http://akkartik.name/lisp.html#bind http://akkartik.name/lisp.html#bind
- tx 19y ago
  Isn't that a violation of GPL? If you include GPL-licensed code into your product (and they claim that Ruby is built-in) you are supposed to have your entire source code available. Ruby interpreter is GPL, how come they can bundle it with proprietary OS?
DocSavage 19y ago
Not much of an online academic discount ($116 vs $129). Our campus bookstore has no idea if Leopard pricing will be different than current Tiger pricing ($69). There also might be a program at your university for heavily discounted upgrades. (e.g., UTexas: http://www.utexas.edu/computer/sales/applestudent.html http://www.utexas.edu/computer/sales/applestudent.html)
- hello_moto 19y ago
  As a CS student in my University, we have access to Vista for free as a part of MSDN-AA. Many students are taking this benefits. We can use the Vista forever as long as it is not for commercial (which doesn't matter much). Office 2007 ultimate cost 64 bucks forever (or 22 for a year)

12 points by nickb 19y ago

Tichy 19y ago

Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon release on the 18th, that is the date I look forward to: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/04/ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-release-dates.html http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/04/ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibb...

ralphb 19y ago

Two notes of interest from the 300 new features list: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html "Ruby on Rails: Work in a developer's dreamland. Leopard is the perfect platform for Ruby on Rails development, with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built in." Yeah, ok. But then there's this: "Cocoa Bridges: Use Ruby and Python as first-class languages for building Cocoa applications, thanks to Objective-C bridges as well as full Xcode and Interface Builder support." Now that is pretty friggin cool, and there might be a significant competitive edge there for the Ruby lovers/Objective-C haters. I worked a bit with RubyCocoa (the open source project that is the basis for Apple's implementation) two summers ago, and it didn't quite seem ready for prime time then. But with Apple throwing its weight behind it, I'm suddenly pretty exited about writing Cocoa applications. Edit: spelling.

jamesbritt 19y ago
> with Rails, Mongrel, and Capistrano built in. This is nice and all, but how hard is running "gem install" ?
- alaskamiller 19y ago
  Rails was included with Tiger, but you had to do some funky things to update it and use it properly. This is just their way of saying you no longer have to do that.
- veritas 19y ago
  Or downloading Locomotive....
inklesspen 19y ago
You ought to check out Nu: http://programming.nu/about http://programming.nu/about Inspired by Ruby and Lisp (uses sexps for notation), written in Objective-C so it has great interaction with Cocoa apps and frameworks. Check out an example: http://blog.neontology.com/posts/2007/08/19/a-glimpse-of-nu http://blog.neontology.com/posts/2007/08/19/a-glimpse-of-nu
- akkartik 19y ago
  Nu is what I call a language remix. Combine the syntax from one language with the runtime of another. It's relatively easy to do; we should be doing more of these. Backward compatibility be damned. --- The ruby/smalltalk connection is a bit of a red herring; the 'inspiration' from them seems to be just inserting symbols in the argument list. Perfectly doable in lisp, just not very conventional. http://akkartik.name/lisp.html#bind http://akkartik.name/lisp.html#bind
tx 19y ago
Isn't that a violation of GPL? If you include GPL-licensed code into your product (and they claim that Ruby is built-in) you are supposed to have your entire source code available. Ruby interpreter is GPL, how come they can bundle it with proprietary OS?

DocSavage 19y ago

Not much of an online academic discount ($116 vs $129). Our campus bookstore has no idea if Leopard pricing will be different than current Tiger pricing ($69). There also might be a program at your university for heavily discounted upgrades. (e.g., UTexas: http://www.utexas.edu/computer/sales/applestudent.html http://www.utexas.edu/computer/sales/applestudent.html)

hello_moto 19y ago
As a CS student in my University, we have access to Vista for free as a part of MSDN-AA. Many students are taking this benefits. We can use the Vista forever as long as it is not for commercial (which doesn't matter much). Office 2007 ultimate cost 64 bucks forever (or 22 for a year)