4 ms·

huh? I know this isn't going to be the popular opinion but I have to get this off. As much as I respect FSF, this mentality is one of the things I dislike about

by nivla 13y ago

huh? I know this isn't going to be the popular opinion but I have to get this off. As much as I respect FSF, this mentality is one of the things I dislike about them. Statements that imply either you are with us or you are evil, trying to crash at opening events of MS/Apple "saving" people from closed source etc. Not everything has to be open source and not everyone has to choose open source. Microsoft/Apple/Google may never make their core products open but it doesn't mean they can't try to make it secure or privacy conscious. The beauty of freedom is that YOU get to choose and trust what you want, good or bad, open or closed. As a developer, I find GPL to be against the "spirit of open source", but it would be extremely wrong for me to demand you license your code differently or to even suggest to your clients to choose a liberal license. Its yours and their choice not mine.

davexunit 13y ago
>As a developer, I find GPL to be against the "spirit of open source". It's not about open source. It's about free software. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point....
- TylerE 13y ago
  Which is, urm, rather the point. Some of us care more about open source than free software.
  - pessimizer 13y ago
    Not the FSF. Have they ever given the impression that they care at all about open source except as a characteristic of Free software? I'm sure they didn't intend to.
kubiiii 13y ago
I think you are right. If microsoft comes out with some sort of license that ensure that they will protect our privacy (or allow us tu sue the hell out of them if they fail to do so) that would be a way to achieve this.
pessimizer 13y ago
>I find GPL to be against the "spirit of open source" More like Open Source is against the GPL, which is really the only reason the OSI came into existence. >either you are with us or you are evil Free software is about morality, not about getting or giving away free stuff. When you take a moral stand, you're necessarily making a moral judgement about people who don't. Open source sells itself as a better way of doing business. Free software supports people's full ownership of their own devices even if it is worse for business.

by nivla 13y ago

davexunit 13y ago

>As a developer, I find GPL to be against the "spirit of open source". It's not about open source. It's about free software. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point....

TylerE 13y ago
Which is, urm, rather the point. Some of us care more about open source than free software.
- pessimizer 13y ago
  Not the FSF. Have they ever given the impression that they care at all about open source except as a characteristic of Free software? I'm sure they didn't intend to.

kubiiii 13y ago

I think you are right. If microsoft comes out with some sort of license that ensure that they will protect our privacy (or allow us tu sue the hell out of them if they fail to do so) that would be a way to achieve this.

pessimizer 13y ago

>I find GPL to be against the "spirit of open source" More like Open Source is against the GPL, which is really the only reason the OSI came into existence. >either you are with us or you are evil Free software is about morality, not about getting or giving away free stuff. When you take a moral stand, you're necessarily making a moral judgement about people who don't. Open source sells itself as a better way of doing business. Free software supports people's full ownership of their own devices even if it is worse for business.