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Bop.fm (YC S13) Links Together Music Silos Like Spotify, Rdio To Share Tracks

58 points by daredia 13y ago

jaytong 13y ago
Been waiting for something like this!
- hnh 13y ago
  Just curious, what for? Seems like you can do the same thing just listening on youtube.
  - rcboling91 13y ago
    It looks like they skip through the Youtube ads. I'll be using bop.fm a lot.
  - jaytong 13y ago
    I have separate playlists on YouTube, SoundCloud, and Spotify because some tracks aren't on the other music service. It's a hassle to switch between. I'd much prefer having a universal playlist.
bichiliad 13y ago
Oh man, if they expose some sort of API, it could be used to clean up tags in music libraries and such. Being able to give a service the tags you have (or a hash of the song or something) and have what track the result most probably is could be awesome.
- mikerice 13y ago
  have you heard of the echonest api? im pretty sure they even use it at bop.fm
  - bichiliad 13y ago
    I have not! Thanks for pointing that out. I have a few projects that I wouldn't mind using this in.
thebiglebrewski 13y ago
How do they make money?
- girasquid 13y ago
  My first guess would be affiliate commission from the various services where you can buy the music.
sc00ty 13y ago
You can only login/signup through facebook? Unfortunate.
- Altaer 13y ago
  There is a TODO comment for adding in login with email in the source code. So hopefully that will change soon!
  - sc00ty 13y ago
    Nice catch. I'll be looking forward to it.
ye 13y ago
http://xkcd.com/927/ http://xkcd.com/927/
- oakaz 13y ago
  this is such a silly and dummy example.
  - ye 13y ago
    this is such a silly and dummy argument
gfunk911 13y ago
I love this idea
Altaer 13y ago
Looks like a more enhanced, professional version of one of my side projects, TuneCrawl. Hopefully it does well!
krrishd 13y ago
I feel like it'll probably make Spotify Premium obsoltete considering it makes mobile listening of Spotify's tracks free...
- jrnkntl 13y ago
  Not even close (for me). Offline playlists is the main reason I use Spotify on my mobile.
  - krrishd 13y ago
    Yeah, I guess that is a big plus. The feature I was referring to was the ability to directly access a track on Spotify from mobile, which is only available with Premium.
frankdenbow 13y ago
How does this compare to Tomahawk?
- kevlened 13y ago
  For those not familiar with Tomahawk, it has an api to locate songs across multiple services. Afaik, it only offers a native music library; it's lacking a way to manage a personal library online. It also has trouble identifying mislabeled live vs studio recordings, which bop.fm seems to solve by using song fingerprints. http://toma.hk http://toma.hk
benbristow 13y ago
Nice. Can't login with my Spotify though. Just says 'launch spotify or login here'.
oakaz 13y ago
I had a similar idea since I wanna create playlists from tracks in multiple resources and made this library; http://github.com/azer/play-url http://github.com/azer/play-url Which takes a url (Mp3, Rdio, Soundcloud and Youtube) and gives you a unified API to play it. www.7min.io/customize is based on this.
jamesgagan 13y ago
Tomahawk has been doing this for quite awhile, both as a standalone payer and on the web: http://toma.hk/ http://toma.hk/
saiko-chriskun 13y ago
meh. I'll be sticking with google all-access.
fruchtose 13y ago
I'm really excited about this kind of service. People have been moving increasingly online in everything they do, and music is no exception. I believe that in the future the vast majority of media consumption will use streaming. (As if it isn't, already!) My main side project involves this kind of service, so I know at the very least it can be complicated to write a server/website which can chomp diverse APIs. [1] What puzzles me is how this could be monetized--I'm sure YouTube and SoundCloud aren't in a hurry to stream their media for free without seeing license fees. [1] https://github.com/fruchtose/muxamp https://github.com/fruchtose/muxamp
mintplant 13y ago
From the terms for embedding the player [1]: > You agree to place a link (“SEO Link”) to bop.fm’s home page (www.bop.fm) on at least one (1) web page within each Website that is no more than 3 clicks away from the home page of the applicable Website and is indexed by Google with “Page Rank”. Each SEO Link will be displayed using the anchor text “bop.fm” (the “Anchor Text”) and will be accompanied by a generic description of bop.fm (e.g., “bop.fm enables any user to play any song, use any streaming music service, and share with any friend.”) and the bop.fm mark. You will not prevent search engines from crawling any web page containing an SEO Link and crediting bop.fm for such SEO Link, including, without limitation, by using “no follow” designations, placing the SEO Links in an i-frame, or placing the SEO Links in JavaScript. This seems like a bit of an odd requirement, especially since it's not mentioned anywhere other than the ToS. [1] http://www.bop.fm/tos-meta http://www.bop.fm/tos-meta
- daredia 13y ago
  If you're interested in embedding the player in a more programmatic way, shoot us a note - info@bop.fm
akbar123 13y ago
No more “this is not available in your location.”! I have been waiting for that. Just got picked up by TNW - http://tinyurl.com/bopfm1 http://tinyurl.com/bopfm1

58 points by daredia 13y ago

jaytong 13y ago

Been waiting for something like this!

hnh 13y ago
Just curious, what for? Seems like you can do the same thing just listening on youtube.
- rcboling91 13y ago
  It looks like they skip through the Youtube ads. I'll be using bop.fm a lot.
- jaytong 13y ago
  I have separate playlists on YouTube, SoundCloud, and Spotify because some tracks aren't on the other music service. It's a hassle to switch between. I'd much prefer having a universal playlist.

bichiliad 13y ago

Oh man, if they expose some sort of API, it could be used to clean up tags in music libraries and such. Being able to give a service the tags you have (or a hash of the song or something) and have what track the result most probably is could be awesome.

mikerice 13y ago
have you heard of the echonest api? im pretty sure they even use it at bop.fm
- bichiliad 13y ago
  I have not! Thanks for pointing that out. I have a few projects that I wouldn't mind using this in.

thebiglebrewski 13y ago

How do they make money?

girasquid 13y ago
My first guess would be affiliate commission from the various services where you can buy the music.

sc00ty 13y ago

You can only login/signup through facebook? Unfortunate.

Altaer 13y ago
There is a TODO comment for adding in login with email in the source code. So hopefully that will change soon!
- sc00ty 13y ago
  Nice catch. I'll be looking forward to it.

ye 13y ago

http://xkcd.com/927/ http://xkcd.com/927/

oakaz 13y ago
this is such a silly and dummy example.
- ye 13y ago
  this is such a silly and dummy argument

gfunk911 13y ago

I love this idea

Altaer 13y ago

Looks like a more enhanced, professional version of one of my side projects, TuneCrawl. Hopefully it does well!

krrishd 13y ago

I feel like it'll probably make Spotify Premium obsoltete considering it makes mobile listening of Spotify's tracks free...

jrnkntl 13y ago
Not even close (for me). Offline playlists is the main reason I use Spotify on my mobile.
- krrishd 13y ago
  Yeah, I guess that is a big plus. The feature I was referring to was the ability to directly access a track on Spotify from mobile, which is only available with Premium.

frankdenbow 13y ago

How does this compare to Tomahawk?

kevlened 13y ago
For those not familiar with Tomahawk, it has an api to locate songs across multiple services. Afaik, it only offers a native music library; it's lacking a way to manage a personal library online. It also has trouble identifying mislabeled live vs studio recordings, which bop.fm seems to solve by using song fingerprints. http://toma.hk http://toma.hk

benbristow 13y ago

Nice. Can't login with my Spotify though. Just says 'launch spotify or login here'.

oakaz 13y ago

I had a similar idea since I wanna create playlists from tracks in multiple resources and made this library; http://github.com/azer/play-url http://github.com/azer/play-url Which takes a url (Mp3, Rdio, Soundcloud and Youtube) and gives you a unified API to play it. www.7min.io/customize is based on this.

jamesgagan 13y ago

Tomahawk has been doing this for quite awhile, both as a standalone payer and on the web: http://toma.hk/ http://toma.hk/

saiko-chriskun 13y ago

meh. I'll be sticking with google all-access.

fruchtose 13y ago

I'm really excited about this kind of service. People have been moving increasingly online in everything they do, and music is no exception. I believe that in the future the vast majority of media consumption will use streaming. (As if it isn't, already!) My main side project involves this kind of service, so I know at the very least it can be complicated to write a server/website which can chomp diverse APIs. [1] What puzzles me is how this could be monetized--I'm sure YouTube and SoundCloud aren't in a hurry to stream their media for free without seeing license fees. [1] https://github.com/fruchtose/muxamp https://github.com/fruchtose/muxamp

mintplant 13y ago

From the terms for embedding the player [1]: > You agree to place a link (“SEO Link”) to bop.fm’s home page (www.bop.fm) on at least one (1) web page within each Website that is no more than 3 clicks away from the home page of the applicable Website and is indexed by Google with “Page Rank”. Each SEO Link will be displayed using the anchor text “bop.fm” (the “Anchor Text”) and will be accompanied by a generic description of bop.fm (e.g., “bop.fm enables any user to play any song, use any streaming music service, and share with any friend.”) and the bop.fm mark. You will not prevent search engines from crawling any web page containing an SEO Link and crediting bop.fm for such SEO Link, including, without limitation, by using “no follow” designations, placing the SEO Links in an i-frame, or placing the SEO Links in JavaScript. This seems like a bit of an odd requirement, especially since it's not mentioned anywhere other than the ToS. [1] http://www.bop.fm/tos-meta http://www.bop.fm/tos-meta

daredia 13y ago
If you're interested in embedding the player in a more programmatic way, shoot us a note - info@bop.fm

akbar123 13y ago

No more “this is not available in your location.”! I have been waiting for that. Just got picked up by TNW - http://tinyurl.com/bopfm1 http://tinyurl.com/bopfm1