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I'm not a programmer, but it sounds to me like the 'standard API' will be proprietary (?). Seems like a fundamental change from SIF (https://www.sifassociation

by l0c0b0x 13y ago

I'm not a programmer, but it sounds to me like the 'standard API' will be proprietary (?). Seems like a fundamental change from SIF (https://www.sifassociation.org/Pages/default.aspx https://www.sifassociation.org/Pages/default.aspx). Working in education for years, I can tell you there is a real need for an open standard that is palatable and feasible for schools and vendors aiming to integrate with student systems.

ejlax 13y ago
this is exactly the point. This is only perpetuating the propriety and just changing the hurdles for vendors and schools to pass data. SIF was great in its time...it was expensive and cumbersome because it required specific knowledge which many district admins don't possess. The new SIF 3 using the CEDS should hope to alleviate many of these issues. As some one who has looked into data integration with Clever, the costs were prohibitive on a large scale, especially when you consider they are continual. While development may be expensive, we aren't paying for it after it is developed...
- dingvarson 13y ago
  There are some examples for SIF 3.0 check out: http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+REST+-+URL+Structure http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+REST+-+URL+Structur... some REST clients here http://sif.dd.com.au/demos/ http://sif.dd.com.au/demos/ Example URL here:http://siftraining.dd.com.au/api/StudentPersonals/ http://siftraining.dd.com.au/api/StudentPersonals/ and heaps of training materials http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+AU+Technical+Workshops+and+VITTA+Conference http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+AU+Technical+Worksh... and a github with example clients and endpoints https://github.com/nsip https://github.com/nsip and Australia has just signed up to SIF as a country. https://www.sifassociation.org/AboutUs/Why-Interoperability/Pages/Statement-of-Intent-(AU).aspx https://www.sifassociation.org/AboutUs/Why-Interoperability/... So open Standards look to be in pretty good shape. Perhaps Clever should support SIF as well? Then it wont be able to be blamed as being so propitiatory.

by l0c0b0x 13y ago

ejlax 13y ago

this is exactly the point. This is only perpetuating the propriety and just changing the hurdles for vendors and schools to pass data. SIF was great in its time...it was expensive and cumbersome because it required specific knowledge which many district admins don't possess. The new SIF 3 using the CEDS should hope to alleviate many of these issues. As some one who has looked into data integration with Clever, the costs were prohibitive on a large scale, especially when you consider they are continual. While development may be expensive, we aren't paying for it after it is developed...

dingvarson 13y ago
There are some examples for SIF 3.0 check out: http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+REST+-+URL+Structure http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+REST+-+URL+Structur... some REST clients here http://sif.dd.com.au/demos/ http://sif.dd.com.au/demos/ Example URL here:http://siftraining.dd.com.au/api/StudentPersonals/ http://siftraining.dd.com.au/api/StudentPersonals/ and heaps of training materials http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+AU+Technical+Workshops+and+VITTA+Conference http://kb.nsip.edu.au/display/SATWVC/SIF+AU+Technical+Worksh... and a github with example clients and endpoints https://github.com/nsip https://github.com/nsip and Australia has just signed up to SIF as a country. https://www.sifassociation.org/AboutUs/Why-Interoperability/Pages/Statement-of-Intent-(AU).aspx https://www.sifassociation.org/AboutUs/Why-Interoperability/... So open Standards look to be in pretty good shape. Perhaps Clever should support SIF as well? Then it wont be able to be blamed as being so propitiatory.