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37signals Job Board is closing down
- petercooper 13y agoThey don't really need the money, of course, but it's still cool to see them truly standing by their principles as set down in REMOTE.
- znowi 13y agoYes, I admire their resolve in staying truly lean as a company with focus on making a great product rather than making a great profit. After more than 10 years, it's still a compact team of 36 people. I wonder what happens when they hit 37 - maybe it's the limit :)
- wlll 13y agoWe're at 42 now.
- zackkitzmiller 13y ago37S really loves job boards, this makes what 3? 4 now?
- AdrianRossouw 13y agoI was wondering if it was just deja-vu on my part.
- brianbreslin 13y agowouldn't you? very little overhead, nice cash flow that is effectively gravy on top of their regular operations.
- programminggeek 13y agoJob boards are a funny thing, it's a fairly easy thing to program, and yet companies will pay good sums of money to post an ad because it is to hard to find decent help AND companies are already paying money to advertise job openings. Value created !== programming complexity
- karolisd 13y agoEasy to program, but how do you get it off the ground? It has the same chicken and egg problem every two-sided marketplace does. 37Signals can do this because they've built an audience.
- interstitial 13y agoThe mall analogy works just fine: You're not paying the high rent for a small space -- you're paying for the foot traffic.
- aspir 13y agoJob boards start easily, but you'd be surprised at how much they can spiral into some of the most convoluted code you've ever seen. They're almost the exact definition of a scope creeping CRUD app. This is compounded by the fast that an MVP job board is so low hanging that corners are often cut into oblivion, causing inescapable technical debt :) I expect "We work remotely" was rooted partially in an attempt to burn down the old job board codebase and start over with more defined and scalable scope.
- cmalpeli 13y agoThis. I started a bunch of niche job boards (pythonjobs.com, bigdatajobs.com, railsjobs.com, etc) using a 3rd party platform - but wasn't happy with the platform so built my own. Fast forward blood, sweat and tears I now offer the platform as a SaaS offering for other looking to create niche job boards (www.JobBoard.io). Starts out as simple CRUD - gets much more complex - especially when multi-tenancy is involved.
- cmalpeli 13y agonot sure why this deserves a downvote - was showing agreement with previous comment w/ some proof of pedigree/perspective to the view.
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- jmduke 13y agoInteresting napkin math for We Work Remote: (131 + 25 + 12 + 12 + 4 + 2 + 2) jobs * $200/mo = 37600 MRR.
- scoot 13y agoMonthly Recurring Revenue? Only if the jobs never get filled (and the advertisers list them indefinately), in which case WWR isn't doing it's job.
- Jgrubb 13y agoTypically job boards allow new jobs to be posted and the old ones that have been filled to be taken down. This might invalidate the OP's napkin, but still gives you a rough idea of revenue.
- mahyarm 13y agoI think the more accurate term is migrating their job board.
- interstitial 13y agoRemote work job postings are usually a haven for scammers, commission-only jobs, and MLM. But this looks great so far. I hope this stays as clean and legitimate as it is now. My sister's boyfriend just bought Ferrari with the cash he made working from home, click here!
- endtwist 13y agoHonestly, did this comment add anything constructive to the conversation or were you more interested in spitting bile?
- notahacker 13y agoIt's a fair point. The signal/noise ratio for advertised freelance work is much lower than that for advertised traditional positions. I think that's mostly down to mismatch: fewer employers advertising for remote positions and more people looking for easy money that can be taken advantage of.
- sjtgraham 13y agoMy bile detector must be on the fritz, here I was thinking that was a particularly jolly comment. Interesting aside: your own comment is a perfectly reasonable reply to itself.
- albedo 13y agoOur current thesis is that job boards are painful to wade through, especially for experienced devs looking to freelance. Our current model involves connecting devs to good clients (i.e. people who've done this sort of thing before), who we screen ourselves (and because we've done freelance development ourselves, we know what to look for). Check out http://getlambda.com http://getlambda.com if you're interested.
- agilebyte 13y agoDo you let in devs that just want to have a look, without freelancing at the moment? And is that just for on site work?
- dusing 13y agoThe WeWorkRemotely works really well. I've never had such a response from one of our job postings. 50 or so qualified applicants in the first week, and we hired a perfect match out of that pool. In contrast our stack overflow ads had gotten 3 highly unqualified applicants in 30 days.
- nowarninglabel 13y agoI haven't tried WeWorkRemotely, but I can attest that StackOverflow ads were abysmal for us. Our final candidate ended up coming to us organically for the position I just hired for, but we also had some good candidates find us from Indeed.com May have just been the nature of the position though (Salesforce work)
- kanwisher 13y agoDepends on your ad stackoverflow has gotten the largest bang for the buck with $1200 in spend I've hired 4 members to my team. There are a lot of jobs there so you need to standout but they definitely have good programmers on it. 37s job board was crap for us tho
- lukethomas 13y agoThis makes complete sense - We Work Remotely is targeted to the remote work niche, while the past job board was probably facing competition from StackOverflow and a variety of "programming centric" job boards.
- josegonzalez 13y agoWeren't they selling one a few months ago? Is it suddenly more profitable to make yet another?
- J-H 13y agoIs the We Work Remotely site loading incredibly slow for anyone else? The Chrome Dev Panel says a 1.4 min page load?
- ammmir 13y agodoes anyone know of similar quality job boards that are focused more on turnkey projects and less on staff augmentation? i've had the best experiences with clients who care more about the end product and results, rather than specific languages, frameworks, or even skillsets. nearly all of them have been inbound or referrals, so i'm not sure if a job board (maybe a reverse job board?) would be able to replicate that.
- alberth 13y agoJust to summarize all the services 37signals has shutdown over the years: - Writeboard [1] - Tada List [2] - Answers [3] - Backpack [4] - Product Blog [5] - Job Board [6] - OpenID support [7] - Draft [8] - Breeze [9] - Softfolio (sold) [10] - Basecamp Classic (still running but can't signup for new services) [11] . Then some "soft" services the were doing like: - Podcast (last update was 2011) [12] - Exit Interviews (last update was in 2011) [13] . Then you have Chalk and Campfire that feel like they are on life support, even though they are still operational. . [1] http://37signals.com/writeboard-retired http://37signals.com/writeboard-retired [2] http://37signals.com/tadalist-retired http://37signals.com/tadalist-retired [3] http://37signals.com/answers-retired http://37signals.com/answers-retired [4] http://37signals.com/backpack-retired http://37signals.com/backpack-retired [5] http://reorg.co/breaking-37signals-retires-product-blog-2011-07/ http://reorg.co/breaking-37signals-retires-product-blog-2011... [6] https://jobs.37signals.com/ https://jobs.37signals.com/ [7] http://37signals.blogs.com/products/2011/01/well-be-retiring-our-support-of-openid-on-may-1.html http://37signals.blogs.com/products/2011/01/well-be-retiring... [8] https://twitter.com/37signals/statuses/208575895101902848 https://twitter.com/37signals/statuses/208575895101902848 [9] https://basecamp.com/breeze https://basecamp.com/breeze [10] http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/05/10/37signals-lists-web-designer-directory-sortfolio-on-flippa-buy-it-now-for-480000/ http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/05/10/37signals-lists-web... [11] http://37signals.com/svn/posts/3114-basecamp-next-becoming-basecamp http://37signals.com/svn/posts/3114-basecamp-next-becoming-b... [12] http://37signals.com/podcast http://37signals.com/podcast [13] http://37signals.com/exit http://37signals.com/exit Edit: formating & added applications to the list
- colinbartlett 13y agoIs Campfire shutting down, too? I think that was the last 37s service I stopped using, about 6 months ago.
- alberth 13y agoNo, the campfire comment was me just making an editorial comment that it feels like that product is being neglected.
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- artpop 13y agoGot my first job from that board sniff
- sciurus 13y agoInteresting that they're competing with Work From Home, which is free. https://www.wfh.io/jobs/ https://www.wfh.io/jobs/