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"We would never trap user data" No, we just use a different definition of "user data" than most privacy and civil rights laws. Or can I soon expect to be able

"We would never trap user data" No, we just use a different definition of "user data" than most privacy and civil rights laws. Or can I soon expect to be able to download all the data anything from Google+ buttons, YouTube to Doubleclick ads have gathered on me?

IanCal 13y ago
I think this is fairly obvious but there's a clear difference between "data belonging to a user" and "data about a user". The first is what they are talking about, because this is how vendor lock-in occurs.
- Florin_Andrei 13y ago
  Yes, there is a difference, absolutely. No, the line between the two categories is not clear at all.
  - IanCal 13y ago
    Can you give me an example of an ambiguous case? I can't think of any personally.
    - JW_00000 13y ago
      Well, the URLs I enter in Chrome for example: is that data belonging to me because I entered it, or is it data about me because they track it? Or even the connections I have on Google+: is it data belonging to me because I entered it?
      - IanCal 13y ago
        You're not really handing over URLs to google saying "here are some urls, please keep them", are you? Bookmarks, yes, and you can easily export them. > Or even the connections I have on Google+: is it data belonging to me because I entered it? Yes. Google takeout lets you download your G+ circles, if that helps.
psbp 13y ago
https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard
- andyhmltn 13y ago
  That first link is hilarious. I looked at my 'interests' based on my searches and apparently I really enjoy Athletics and Chevrolet. Weird considering I don't like either haha
lalalalalalala 13y ago
You can already get your data for many things https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard Individual datasets are not of much group to advertisers
Kerrick 13y ago
You can download your data from the +1 Buttons at least. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024195?hl=en#plusones https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024195?hl=en#plu...

IanCal 13y ago

I think this is fairly obvious but there's a clear difference between "data belonging to a user" and "data about a user". The first is what they are talking about, because this is how vendor lock-in occurs.

Florin_Andrei 13y ago
Yes, there is a difference, absolutely. No, the line between the two categories is not clear at all.
- IanCal 13y ago
  Can you give me an example of an ambiguous case? I can't think of any personally.
  - JW_00000 13y ago
    Well, the URLs I enter in Chrome for example: is that data belonging to me because I entered it, or is it data about me because they track it? Or even the connections I have on Google+: is it data belonging to me because I entered it?
    - IanCal 13y ago
      You're not really handing over URLs to google saying "here are some urls, please keep them", are you? Bookmarks, yes, and you can easily export them. > Or even the connections I have on Google+: is it data belonging to me because I entered it? Yes. Google takeout lets you download your G+ circles, if that helps.

psbp 13y ago

https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard

andyhmltn 13y ago
That first link is hilarious. I looked at my 'interests' based on my searches and apparently I really enjoy Athletics and Chevrolet. Weird considering I don't like either haha

lalalalalalala 13y ago

You can already get your data for many things https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard Individual datasets are not of much group to advertisers

Kerrick 13y ago

You can download your data from the +1 Buttons at least. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024195?hl=en#plusones https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024195?hl=en#plu...