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A Microsoft OS still runs on over 90% of the desktop market.

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runjake 13y ago
I wonder what the percentage is when you figure the entire "computer" gaming market (eg. consoles, tablets, and phones). I suspect Microsoft's dominance on gaming is (and will become even more) weaker than we believe. OpenGL seems like a no-brainer for future survival as MSFT platform dominance exhibits entropy.
- runevault 13y ago
  Is PS3/PS4 development OGL or a proprietary API? Because if it is OGL then yes that makes said API far more useful for sheer amount of access to hardware.
  - LukeShu 13y ago
    The PS4 uses OpenGL (4.4?). The PS3 used a proprietary API based on OpenGL 1.0.
    - runevault 13y ago
      So yeah, OGL grows more useful as the PS4 grows its user base. Thanks for the info
      - pjmlp 13y ago
        False info. PS4 uses a proprietary API called GNM http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-crew-was-ported-to-playstation-4 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-cre...
    - eropple 13y ago
      The PS4 supports OpenGL, but my understanding is that most non-indie games use libgcm.
afreak 13y ago
Right now, yes. However we do know that this has been changing quite rapidly in the past years so why fall back on the use of this argument?
- aaronbrethorst 13y ago
  On traditional PCs and Macs, Microsoft still owns an overwhelming market share, with 91.8 percent of all traffic coming from Windows-based machines. Among non- Microsoft operating systems, both OS X and Linux have stalled since October 2011, hovering around 6.9 percent and 1.2 percent, respectively. http://www.zdnet.com/latest-os-share-data-shows-windows-still-dominating-in-pcs-7000013351/ http://www.zdnet.com/latest-os-share-data-shows-windows-stil...
  - ekianjo 13y ago
    Market share if one thing, but we are looking at a segment of gamers which may be split differently. Who says there isn't a larger proportion of Linux gamers in that segment, for example? If Humble Bundle is any indication, it looks like the Mac gamers segment and the Linux gamer segment is actually pretty close in size.
- sliverstorm 13y ago
  How about because it's still valid? What game developer say to themselves, It looks like in 10 years, Linux and OSX adoption will _probably_ approach 50% market share. Therefore, the best choice for my new game, which will be released in 3-4 years, is to choose OpenGL I'm not a game developer, but I would bet they are interested in where the market will be in the medium term, and there is no indication Linux/OS X will suddenly dominate within that timeframe.

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I wonder what the percentage is when you figure the entire "computer" gaming market (eg. consoles, tablets, and phones). I suspect Microsoft's dominance on gaming is (and will become even more) weaker than we believe. OpenGL seems like a no-brainer for future survival as MSFT platform dominance exhibits entropy.

runevault 13y ago
Is PS3/PS4 development OGL or a proprietary API? Because if it is OGL then yes that makes said API far more useful for sheer amount of access to hardware.
- LukeShu 13y ago
  The PS4 uses OpenGL (4.4?). The PS3 used a proprietary API based on OpenGL 1.0.
  - runevault 13y ago
    So yeah, OGL grows more useful as the PS4 grows its user base. Thanks for the info
    - pjmlp 13y ago
      False info. PS4 uses a proprietary API called GNM http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-crew-was-ported-to-playstation-4 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-cre...
  - eropple 13y ago
    The PS4 supports OpenGL, but my understanding is that most non-indie games use libgcm.

afreak 13y ago

Right now, yes. However we do know that this has been changing quite rapidly in the past years so why fall back on the use of this argument?

aaronbrethorst 13y ago
On traditional PCs and Macs, Microsoft still owns an overwhelming market share, with 91.8 percent of all traffic coming from Windows-based machines. Among non- Microsoft operating systems, both OS X and Linux have stalled since October 2011, hovering around 6.9 percent and 1.2 percent, respectively. http://www.zdnet.com/latest-os-share-data-shows-windows-still-dominating-in-pcs-7000013351/ http://www.zdnet.com/latest-os-share-data-shows-windows-stil...
- ekianjo 13y ago
  Market share if one thing, but we are looking at a segment of gamers which may be split differently. Who says there isn't a larger proportion of Linux gamers in that segment, for example? If Humble Bundle is any indication, it looks like the Mac gamers segment and the Linux gamer segment is actually pretty close in size.
sliverstorm 13y ago
How about because it's still valid? What game developer say to themselves, It looks like in 10 years, Linux and OSX adoption will _probably_ approach 50% market share. Therefore, the best choice for my new game, which will be released in 3-4 years, is to choose OpenGL I'm not a game developer, but I would bet they are interested in where the market will be in the medium term, and there is no indication Linux/OS X will suddenly dominate within that timeframe.