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I'll admit I wasn't a fan of process-per-tab originally either. However, since ever browser leaks memory, the ability to close some windows and reclaim the memo

I'll admit I wasn't a fan of process-per-tab originally either. However, since ever browser leaks memory, the ability to close some windows and reclaim the memory that was lost has been very useful to me (I tend to have 50+ tabs open at most times, and for many days at a time). That being said, I'd also be ok with process-per-window, as that would give me the same basic ability.

deeringc 13y ago
It seems to me that "one process per window" would make it very difficult to implement dragging tabs between windows, and out into their own window.
- repsilat 13y ago
  I guess it's a holdover from when I used Linux more often, but for most applications it seems sensible to just let the WM manage tabs. I guess there are a couple of situations when that approach is worse, though: - Tabs need to communicate with each other, or with a "host" application. In-process communication might be simpler than inter-process. - Some people have WMs that don't provide an acceptable tabbing interface, and you want your application to have an acceptable interface everywhere. In this case I guess I'd suggest distributing a separate tabbing program along with your app, but that kind of separation of responsibility has definitely gone out of fashion.
diydsp 13y ago
Hahaha, you and me and about 1% of the browser users (well on HN, probably more like 10%) have particular habits of keeping much larger numbers of tabs open than everyone else. Have you imagined an alternate scheme to tabs, where there are 100s of thousands of potential "tabs" which can be organized, called up in groups, moved in clumps together, and shared? Imagine each group of tabs like soldiers in a Command and Conquer game...
- danielfernandez 13y ago
  I have found out that lots of people from other non-technical areas also have the "too many tabs opened" problem. We are working on a solution for that except for the soldiers part =) The idea is that you can keep your browser synced (one or many browsers) and move tabs for later, search them, archive them, restore them and soon also share them. Take a look at http://listboard.it http://listboard.it if you are interested.
  - diydsp 13y ago
    oh, interesting, so I'm not the only one! I subscribed. Thank you.
  - mutagen 13y ago
    I just signed up. I've been using and abusing multiple windows and then tabs in Opera's MDI interface since the modem days, when it was nice to have a few pages loading up and come back to them fully loaded instead of waiting for each one. I'd love to have something indexing and closing old tabs for me in the background instead of manually managing them. Heuristics like 'this tab or any pages on this domain haven't been visited in a week, index the page and close the tab'. At times I use tabs as reminders, perhaps adding some intelligence like "This Kickstarter is expiring in 3 days and hasn't been viewed in a week, you still interested?" might be nice. Any tab with future dates approaching might be worth alerting people to. A summary page might be nice with the last closed tabs, the upcoming dates tabs mentioned above. Pinboard or the like integration would be pretty awesome, that is primarily how I'm managing tabs now. The more I think about this the more excited I get. Of course the tough part is satisfying each of us who have their own reasons and their own process for managing multiple tabs.
  - simcop2387 13y ago
    That looks really nice. I wonder if you could integrate this with firefox's tab groups[1] I use them to manage things all the time. [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tabs https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tab...

deeringc 13y ago

It seems to me that "one process per window" would make it very difficult to implement dragging tabs between windows, and out into their own window.

repsilat 13y ago
I guess it's a holdover from when I used Linux more often, but for most applications it seems sensible to just let the WM manage tabs. I guess there are a couple of situations when that approach is worse, though: - Tabs need to communicate with each other, or with a "host" application. In-process communication might be simpler than inter-process. - Some people have WMs that don't provide an acceptable tabbing interface, and you want your application to have an acceptable interface everywhere. In this case I guess I'd suggest distributing a separate tabbing program along with your app, but that kind of separation of responsibility has definitely gone out of fashion.

diydsp 13y ago

Hahaha, you and me and about 1% of the browser users (well on HN, probably more like 10%) have particular habits of keeping much larger numbers of tabs open than everyone else. Have you imagined an alternate scheme to tabs, where there are 100s of thousands of potential "tabs" which can be organized, called up in groups, moved in clumps together, and shared? Imagine each group of tabs like soldiers in a Command and Conquer game...

danielfernandez 13y ago
I have found out that lots of people from other non-technical areas also have the "too many tabs opened" problem. We are working on a solution for that except for the soldiers part =) The idea is that you can keep your browser synced (one or many browsers) and move tabs for later, search them, archive them, restore them and soon also share them. Take a look at http://listboard.it http://listboard.it if you are interested.
- diydsp 13y ago
  oh, interesting, so I'm not the only one! I subscribed. Thank you.
- mutagen 13y ago
  I just signed up. I've been using and abusing multiple windows and then tabs in Opera's MDI interface since the modem days, when it was nice to have a few pages loading up and come back to them fully loaded instead of waiting for each one. I'd love to have something indexing and closing old tabs for me in the background instead of manually managing them. Heuristics like 'this tab or any pages on this domain haven't been visited in a week, index the page and close the tab'. At times I use tabs as reminders, perhaps adding some intelligence like "This Kickstarter is expiring in 3 days and hasn't been viewed in a week, you still interested?" might be nice. Any tab with future dates approaching might be worth alerting people to. A summary page might be nice with the last closed tabs, the upcoming dates tabs mentioned above. Pinboard or the like integration would be pretty awesome, that is primarily how I'm managing tabs now. The more I think about this the more excited I get. Of course the tough part is satisfying each of us who have their own reasons and their own process for managing multiple tabs.
- simcop2387 13y ago
  That looks really nice. I wonder if you could integrate this with firefox's tab groups[1] I use them to manage things all the time. [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tabs https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups-organize-tab...