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So this[1] is absurd to you? 0% chance of being true? http://www.naturalnews.com/042323_brain_cancer_risk_cell_phones_mobile_devices.html http://www.naturalnew

by smtddr 13y ago

So this[1] is absurd to you? 0% chance of being true? http://www.naturalnews.com/042323_brain_cancer_risk_cell_phones_mobile_devices.html http://www.naturalnews.com/042323_brain_cancer_risk_cell_pho... EDIT: ouch, those downvotes...

Crito 13y ago
Obviously this is a point of obsession for you and nothing I am going to say is going to change your mind, but here you go, have fun: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones Regardless, Alsup's decision in this case did not assume that there is no chance that cellphones cause cancer. He left himself open to that possibility. Hence more than reasonable.
- dubfan 13y ago
  Trying to argue with an alt-medicine fanatic using a .gov source is like citing Dawkins in a debate with a Bible thumper. They won't take the source seriously.
- smtddr 13y ago
  Ah, okay then. So then he left himself open to that possibility but he believes the possibility is still too small for SF to make a law over. That's a fair conclusion. I can understand that there's no need to alarm the general public until concrete evidence is brought to light.
  - moocowduckquack 13y ago
    Below mobile phone, wi-fi and microwave oven frequency ranges (0.9Ghz - 2.4Ghz), the 40Mhz band can still be used for cooking http://www.ctechinnovation.com/#sthash.wZafGNLl.dpbs http://www.ctechinnovation.com/#sthash.wZafGNLl.dpbs and is also used for radio controlled cars http://www.ukrcc.org/40mhz.html http://www.ukrcc.org/40mhz.html Above that, infra-red light, which starts at around 300 Ghz, is again used for cooking, and it also is used for changing channels on your TV. What do you think is special about mobile phone, wi-fi and microwave oven frequency ranges? (edited for clarity and stuff)
  - drharris 13y ago
    >there's no need to alarm the general public until concrete evidence is brought to light. Taken further, there's no need for anyone to be alarmed until concrete evidence is brought to light.
eco 13y ago
Never thought I'd see the day when medical conspiracy theory website NaturalNews is linked to on Hacker News as proof of something. Sure, we can all expect links to it on Facebook from that one crazy aunt or uncle most people have but it's weird seeing it here.
dubfan 13y ago
Do you have a link to the study itself? That is a highly dubious source and the author doesn't appear to have the credentials to interpret such a study accurately and without bias.
- owenmarshall 13y ago
  >Lloyd Burrell is the author of a new ebook entitled "How To Beat Electrical Sensitivity" which offers a solution to the growing number of people whose health is being compromised by exposure to wireless and similar technologies, see www.electricsense.com/3-free-chapters.html >Since falling prey to a violent reaction to his cell phone in 2002 he has spent the last 10 years researching the effects of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) on health. He now offers a complete solution on how to live a healthy life in our increasingly electromagnetic world. dubfan, what you said might just be the biggest understatement I've heard all year. "Electrical sensitivity" is the realm of quacks and the mentally ill, so I'm pretty unconvinced when someone who believes in that starts talking about the EM risks of cell phones.

by smtddr 13y ago

Crito 13y ago

Obviously this is a point of obsession for you and nothing I am going to say is going to change your mind, but here you go, have fun: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones Regardless, Alsup's decision in this case did not assume that there is no chance that cellphones cause cancer. He left himself open to that possibility. Hence more than reasonable.

dubfan 13y ago
Trying to argue with an alt-medicine fanatic using a .gov source is like citing Dawkins in a debate with a Bible thumper. They won't take the source seriously.
smtddr 13y ago
Ah, okay then. So then he left himself open to that possibility but he believes the possibility is still too small for SF to make a law over. That's a fair conclusion. I can understand that there's no need to alarm the general public until concrete evidence is brought to light.
- moocowduckquack 13y ago
  Below mobile phone, wi-fi and microwave oven frequency ranges (0.9Ghz - 2.4Ghz), the 40Mhz band can still be used for cooking http://www.ctechinnovation.com/#sthash.wZafGNLl.dpbs http://www.ctechinnovation.com/#sthash.wZafGNLl.dpbs and is also used for radio controlled cars http://www.ukrcc.org/40mhz.html http://www.ukrcc.org/40mhz.html Above that, infra-red light, which starts at around 300 Ghz, is again used for cooking, and it also is used for changing channels on your TV. What do you think is special about mobile phone, wi-fi and microwave oven frequency ranges? (edited for clarity and stuff)
- drharris 13y ago
  >there's no need to alarm the general public until concrete evidence is brought to light. Taken further, there's no need for anyone to be alarmed until concrete evidence is brought to light.

eco 13y ago

Never thought I'd see the day when medical conspiracy theory website NaturalNews is linked to on Hacker News as proof of something. Sure, we can all expect links to it on Facebook from that one crazy aunt or uncle most people have but it's weird seeing it here.

dubfan 13y ago

Do you have a link to the study itself? That is a highly dubious source and the author doesn't appear to have the credentials to interpret such a study accurately and without bias.

owenmarshall 13y ago
>Lloyd Burrell is the author of a new ebook entitled "How To Beat Electrical Sensitivity" which offers a solution to the growing number of people whose health is being compromised by exposure to wireless and similar technologies, see www.electricsense.com/3-free-chapters.html >Since falling prey to a violent reaction to his cell phone in 2002 he has spent the last 10 years researching the effects of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) on health. He now offers a complete solution on how to live a healthy life in our increasingly electromagnetic world. dubfan, what you said might just be the biggest understatement I've heard all year. "Electrical sensitivity" is the realm of quacks and the mentally ill, so I'm pretty unconvinced when someone who believes in that starts talking about the EM risks of cell phones.